It’s hard to believe these are the final episodes! In addition to reviewing both of the final episodes, I will also give an overview of my thoughts of the series in general at the end of this post.
I didn’t really like episode 9 all that much. I felt the humor got a bit worse again with this episode, and it felt like there were more jokes per minute. The jokes also seemed even more try-hard than the last few did, especially stuff like the “steal her style” thing spotlighting the brains, where the host cut her head off with a saw to try to match the brains’ style. There also felt like there were more “Twitter one-liner” type jokes, such as the “there’s lots of opportunities these days for fugly babies. She could be a meme!” I have never found the jokes that feel like one-liners you’d post on Twitter to be funny in this show, so the fact that there were so many of them here made this episode quite dislikable. However, I’ve gotten used to the fact that the humor in this show is overall pretty crappy, so the humor wasn’t the major problem for me. I felt this episode brought Velma to a new low, which is definitely saying something since she is already an awful character. Literally the entire episode is her lying to her family and friends to get what she wants, and treating those around her like garbage. The episode centers around Diya having 72 hours to remember who the killer is, or she will lose her memory forever. Diya returns home to see Aman having an affair with Sophie, and sees their baby. This makes Diya furious. Instead of telling the truth, Velma covers for her dad by lying and saying Aman and Sophie’s baby is hers, and that Norville got her pregnant. I suppose if you were very generous, you could look at this as a positive because she’s protecting her dad. However, Velma continues lying to her mother throughout the entire episode about everything that happened when she was kidnapped. She forces Norville to make her a fake report card, so that her mom won’t see that her grades slipped, and then yells at him because he didn’t do it fast enough for her liking. She also demands Norville follow her charade of pretending that he is the baby’s father. She also accuses Shaggy’s father of being the serial killer because she finds a welder’s mask in his office, and calls in a SWAT Team of tanks to destroy Norville’s house before having any evidence whatsoever that he was the killer. At one point, Sophie was trying to build a crib for the baby, only for Velma to storm in the room and shout “you’re taking too long,” as she smashes the crib with a hammer. Worst of all, Velma drops the baby twice, and sends the baby rolling down a busy street in heavy traffic, causing several car crashes. As she sends the baby rolling down the street, Velma also admits to attempting to sell the baby on the dark web, so she didn’t have to take care of her. Sorry to be so negative here, but I thought this episode took Velma being a garbage human being to a whole new level. This whole episode was one instance after another of her treating her friends and family like trash, and doing several things that could have easily killed the baby. In addition to Velma being terrible, I also found Aman to be equally as awful. It is horrible that rather than admitting he had an affair while his wife was kidnapped, he would allow his wife to think that their daughter had a baby. Moreover, at one point, Aman says to Velma “your mom already had one unwanted baby!”, meaning that he is telling Velma she was an accident and they didn’t actually want to have her. That is an absolutely horrible thing to tell your child, so while I know the show was going for a shock value joke there, it made me really hate Aman as a character for being such a jerk to his daughter. While Diya wasn’t a horrible character, the interactions between Velma and Diya also feel stilted IMO, which also contributed to my dislike of the episode. I don’t feel there’s too much to discuss with Norville outside of what I already did, since he and Velma’s plots are quite intertwined in this episode. He still remains to be the only main character who isn’t a complete jerk. You could argue him speeding away in his car when Velma said he was the father to be mean, but honestly, I don’t blame Norville. Velma was putting him in an extremely toxic situation, so it makes sense he wouldn’t want to be involved. That being said, I completely agreed with Norville’s decision to dump Velma as a friend, and honestly it’s about time he did after all the crappy stuff she’s done to him. It’s pretty sad when you’re actually happy that the main character loses a friend. Daphne and Fred’s plot is a little odd this time. The disembodied brains of the killers’ victims return to school in their jars, and remain popular. They oust Daphne and Fred from being popular, so the two of them devise a plan to pretend to go out with each other. As per usual with this series, Daphne and Fred were very manipulative, and basically are using each other to get what they want. The realness of Daphne and Fred’s relationship is challenged by the brains at the dance, and they are dared to kiss, and they do. Velma then barges in and gets mad when she sees them kissing, because Daphne and Velma had kinda implied that they were girlfriends, but it’s never officially confirmed in the show. The relationship drama continues to be done in a cringey and unlikeable way IMO. It almost feels like the writers are trolling the audience, because we see all this hopeless pining and teasing of romantic pairings, but then they don’t actually contribute to the plot in any meaningful way. We also see Daphne being offered an internship with Fred’s mother at Jones Gentleman’s Accessories. I thought Fred practicing getting swirlied by drowning his own head in the toilet was perhaps one of the oddest jokes of the series. Probably the one joke of this episode that I found to be funny was Daphne saying she couldn’t sit out in the sun, as she points to a guy who burst into flames from being out in the sun too long. It was so random that it caught me off-guard a bit. Moving on to the finale, I also was not really a fan of the ending. I’ve been trying to keep the reviews mostly non-spoiler, but I can’t really review the finale without spoilers since the whole episode was about wrapping up the overarching plot. If you’ve been reading these reviews without having watched the episodes, I’d recommend you skip to the *end spoilers* tag unless you don’t care if the ending is spoiled. *spoilers* True to this show’s form, I thought too much of the ending was based on cringey social commentaries, which have almost never landed for the entire series. We start the episode off with Velma’s mom being arrested for being the serial killer. I did find the bit funny where one of the options on the female guilt admission form was “you know how we get!” Velma’s mom reveals that she wanted to put a popular girl’s brain inside Velma. I was desperately hoping that they weren’t going to make that the culprit’s rationale, and thankfully, the show did come through where it came up with an ending that was at least somewhat clever. It turns out that Velma’s mother was hypnotized by the real killer, as was Velma when she was younger. Velma tries to get herself arrested by having Fred (a white man) say that she’s bothering him, and is successful. I thought that social commentary was extremely cringey. I’ll talked about it a bit at the beginning of this review, but one of the biggest things I dislike about this series is that they use social commentaries to advance the plot. Almost none of the social commentaries are ever funny, so it has felt increasingly cringey that the show continues to do that. Velma is able to talk to her mom, but the sheriff takes her away to be put on death row before she’s able to finish the conversation. Velma does some piecing together of the mystery, and finds some more clues in her room and at school. Once again, I was not a fan of the whole “the answers have been right in front of me all along!” thing. It would work if it was done sparingly, but it feels like this show has regularly prioritized the crappy humor over developing the plot in an interesting and engaging way. Nearly every single clue has been way too easy for Velma to find in this show, where it’s either right in front of her all along, or she looks up the answer in two seconds online. Part of what makes a mystery engaging is the difficulty and adventure in finding clues, so the fact that Velma keeps finding all the clues she needs in three seconds is incredibly lazy on the writers’ part. I did like how the writers seem to reference their own corner-cutting during the shower scene when one of the girls says “Where did Velma’s phone come from? We’re all naked! On the other hand though, the meta joke right before it where one of the girls says “don’t you hate when shows have characters that don’t talk much?” was painfully unfunny. I don’t understand why the writers are obsessed with these meta TV writing jokes, because over the series’ entire 10 episode run, zero of those jokes have been even the slightest bit funny. Meanwhile, we find out that Norville hates Velma so much he transferred schools. While we don’t see a ton of Norville at the beginning, we get quite possibly one of the most cringey scenes in the entire franchise. Velma finally listens to all of Shaggy’s voicemails which she has ignored for two years. As she listens to these voicemails, she begins to tear up and fall in love with him, while the song “I Will Remember You” by Sarah MacLachlan plays in the background. The show tries to present it as a sweet moment, when it’s not; in fact, it was nearly intolerable to watch. Velma has been the most shitty friend ever for this entire show, so her finally appreciating him is literally doing the bare minimum that any good friend would have already been doing. She is not a “cool boss ass bitch” as she calls herself at one point in the episode; she is behaving like a jerk with zero empathy. Moreover, since she’s been treating him like garbage this entire show, it makes no sense for her to go from that to suddenly being in love with him. Perhaps this would have been a little sweet in another show, but Velma has behaved like such an unbearable jerk to him over the course of the entire show, that her finally realizing how she’s in love with him is almost unbearable to watch. What’s even worse is that she doesn’t even learn her lesson about appreciating her friends, because five minutes later, she interrupts Fred and Daphne when they’re trying to explain the villain’s motive and yells “stop talking before I think less of you!” At the end of the episode, Velma watches a movie with her mom, as she locks her dad and Sophie out of the house in the cold, proving that she’s just as crappy of a person as she ever was. We also get to see the disgusting scene where Norville is vomiting and there’s blood spraying everywhere, while Velma twerks over a crushed dead body. Honestly, I am not really shocked or offended by this, I’ve gotten to the point where I just think it’s dumb how hard this show is trying to convince us of its edginess. We also see Velma become a detective for the police department at the end of this episode, which wasn’t all that clever, and sadly they end the show where the sheriff makes a sexist comment about women being better than men. The ending where Edna’s ghost is real honestly wasn’t done all that great either; it just felt cliche tbh. That type of ending has been done better in so many other shows and movies, and it wasn’t at all clever or intriguing. Fred raging out was honestly weird to see. I absolutely hated the origin story for the Mystery Machine, which is that Fred is driving around a “trashy pedo van” with the company’s logo (the classic Mystery Machine orange flower) on it to trick teens, because it’s what all the fashion companies are doing. Again, I have gotten to a point where this show where I don’t find offense in any of the shock humor here; it’s honestly just stupid to see how hard this show is trying to force its edginess. The joke about Fred liking the bats pulling at his crotch was similarly stupid. Fred’s ending being a “spooky stuff hunter” wasn’t done well; it just kinda came out of nowhere and didn’t fit with anything. The story with Daphne’s internship and Fred’s mom being the culprit was at least somewhat creative, I’ll give the show that, because I was thinking it was going to be Velma’s mom. Once they revealed it wasn’t Velma’s mom that was the culprit, it became kinda obvious that Fred’s mother was the culprit. Her motivation for doing it being to switch Fred’s brain with a more creative mind was at least somewhat interesting, but they kind of ruined the surprise by faking the audience out first with Velma’s mom saying she wanted to switch Velma’s brain with a more popular girl. I felt the Daphne and Velma drama where Velma says “Norville” when she’s kissing Daphne was also cringey. None of the romantic stuff in this show makes any logical sense; it feels like the writers are just forcing stuff to happen so they can advance their cringey love rectangle plot. Speaking of Norville, it was surprising to see him kill Fred’s mother. I admittedly did not see that coming! I strongly disliked Shaggy’s ending where he’s clearly experiencing trauma and his dad tells him to try some marijuana to calm down. This show seems fixated on two-dimensional stereotype characters though, so I can’t say it surprises me that they would end his character arc by drawing upon the stereotype that he smokes weed. *end spoilers* Moving into my overall thoughts on the series, it should come as no surprise to anyone who’s been following these reviews that the show was not so good lol. As I’ve processed these episodes each week, I feel the forefront of my concerns is the characterization. Velma is just an insufferable jerk throughout the whole series, and she only gets worse as the series progresses. At her best, she’s selfish and judgmental, and at her worst she’s emotionally abusive to her friends and family. I did warm up a tiny bit to Fred as the series went on, but it was more in the sense of finding certain bits so stupid that they were funny to me, rather than liking his character. Daphne was also similarly unlikeable in the sense of being mean and self-centered. The only character who I found likable was Norville, but he wasn’t really all that funny. Velma, Daphne and Fred’s terrible personalities aside, the character development is honestly just bad. We go from moments where the characters are awful to each other, like Velma and Daphne beating each other up in episode 3, or Velma and Daphne trying to kill each other in episode 8 and then minutes later saying they’re girlfriends; to moments like Velma suddenly realizing her feelings for Norville with zero context as from how we got to point A to point B. Speaking of which, I didn’t mention it before, but Velma and Shaggy are now randomly in love with each other and now going out at the end of this episode. This would be cringey enough on its own due to the lack of explanation and development, but we also get no resolution to Daphne being in love with Velma, and Shaggy’s girlfriend Gigi literally doesn’t even show up in these two episodes, yet Shaggy is apparently with Velma now. The characterization is off-the-charts level of poor in this show, where characters will just do nonsensical stuff that completely contradicts what we’ve previously been shown, for no reason at all. My second main criticism of the show is the overall writing. Similarly to what I just talked about with the characters, plotlines will be dropped inexplicably and then randomly picked up again. The writers seem to be weirdly fixated on making certain ideas happen, even if they don’t fit with the plot, which causes them to squander plotlines that would have been interesting to dive deeper into. A great example of this is “Fog Fest,” where the show sets it up really nicely to focus on the serial killer, but the killer only shows up in the last four minutes, and we instead get a cringey social commentary about Velma experiencing male privilege. The pacing of the show is also so far off. We’ll get full episodes that are sitcom-like social commentaries, and then they’ll cram major plots into an episode or two, like Daphne’s birth parents. The writing is jumpy, inconsistent, and at times, even seems to troll the audience. I feel many of the show’s problems can be attributed to the over-focus on and try-hardness of the humor. I’ve said it all along, but the show is so determined to be “edgy” that they sacrifice what could have been an interesting mystery for the sake of making more jokes that weren’t even funny in the first place. Moreover, even if the humor wasn’t affecting the development of the plot, it still wouldn’t be all that funny most of the time. I did not find any of the social commentaries particularly funny. A big part of it is something I saw in another review that I thought was phrased really well; that the writers are obsessed with social identity. The writing presents social identities as a universal concept, i.e. “all police hate women and black people” and “all white men are stupid and uneducated,” when it’s simply not that two-dimensional. Yes, police brutality is a very real thing and there are plenty of racists out there, but this show boils down characters’ entire identities to these weird, overly simplistic views of social identity, and then they become obsessed with making dozens of jokes about it per episode. As a result, it makes the social commentaries unfunny, and they come across like one-liners people would post on Twitter. I did like the mystery and found some of that development interesting, but I wish it would have felt like such an afterthought. It did feel like the show had at least a little bit of potential in terms of the mystery, but the easy-to-find clues and the humor kinda overshadowed it for me. Episode 3 and 4 remain least favorites for me; the intense focus on the comedy was over-the-top and almost unbearable to get through. I will say though that episode 5 and 6 were my favorites of these episodes, because it didn’t feel like they were trying quite as hard with the humor. I laughed at several of the jokes in that episode, moreso than any other episodes, because the overall plot was finally getting the focus it deserved, and the humor was toned back a bit. It’s too bad the toned-down humor didn’t last though, as I felt like they dialed it right back up for the last couple episodes. Either way, it at least shows that the show did have some potential, but it needed to have more of a balance between the mystery and the humor, and the humor needed to be far less cringey than it was. It’s been a wild ride, and it’s hard to believe we’ve seen all 10 episodes after 2 years of anticipating this (actually, it will be 2 years to the day tomorrow, since we got the announcement on February 10, 2021). I would be surprised if we get a second season to this. Since it’s been so critically torn apart, and somehow it seems to have united both sides of the political spectrum in hatred against the show, it seems like this would be the end of the show. However, the EIDR database lists a record of Velma season 2 being "in development," but when you click on the listing, it says "deleted," so who knows. In my opinion, this was a misfire for WB, but I’m glad I sat through it and gave it a chance, even though it was pretty bad. Overall, while there was some potential with the mystery, the show’s intense prerogative to position itself as “edgy” and “adult” ultimately worked to its detriment, both in terms of the most people’s reaction, and the fact that the writing was rushed as a result of overfocus on edgy comedy. I will be very interested to see how this affects us getting mature Scooby stuff in the future, or if it causes WB-Discovery to lean more towards super safe content due to the intense backlash this got. I look forward to hearing all of your thoughts in the comments, and here are my final rankings of the show: Rankings: 1. The Sins of the Fathers and Some of the Mothers 2. Marching Band Sleepover 3. A Velma in the Woods 4. Fog Fest 5. The Brains of the Operation 6. The Candy Man 7. Velma 8. Family (Wo)man 9. Velma Makes a List 10. Velma Kai
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ScoobyVerse
2/9/2023 02:26:33 pm
Not sure how well EIDR is reliable, the same source list this https://ui.eidr.org/view/content?id=10.5240/C733-2D0B-97B1-CE32-5F81-F
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2/9/2023 02:33:16 pm
That's really weird! They also list the release date for Krypto Too as 2022 which obviously did not happen. I'm not sure how reliable they are either. I also noticed that if you click on the season 2 link, it says "deleted" so maybe it's not valid anymore.
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Ismael
2/9/2023 02:44:58 pm
I will forever be sad if the Krypto movie doesn't come out. The promo images look amazing with all of those DC characters... 2/9/2023 06:19:08 pm
Yeah, the promo images did look great! I agree with you it was likely meant as a promotion for League of SuperPets and will likely not come out now, unfortunately.
Ismael
2/9/2023 02:48:44 pm
So I guess this is the worst Scooby-Doo show.
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2/9/2023 06:20:21 pm
I have no idea about the DTV. Supposedly we were getting Haunted High Rise, but it's reportedly been cancelled so I don't really know. If we did get one, I imagine it'd be Krypto.
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Alexandra Rutt
2/9/2023 04:00:27 pm
btw i've silently been following you and the show this whole time and i just want to say this review is bars
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Becker
2/9/2023 04:42:18 pm
To cut straight to the chase: the worst last 2 episodes of any show I've ever seen. They're fucking awful. I'm not gonna do a deep dive review this time, there's no merit or point anymore, because everything was terrible. Just take every criticism I've made over the last month and crank it up a notch. Every single aspect of this show is at its worst in these 2 episodes, which I didn't know was possible. I went in expecting the finale to be bad, just like the rest of the show, but I couldn't imagine it would be this bad.
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Becker
2/9/2023 05:05:05 pm
Btw, they never say Velma and Norville are actually going out by the end of the episode, everything within the gang is just very messy. And Gigi did appear in both episodes, but she was just relegated to a member of the cool girls clique like in eps 1-4, and she only had a couple of lines in ep 10 in the shower scene where she tells Velma she treated the best person in her (Norville) life like crap. It's clear Norville and Gigi broke up after what happened in ep 8, but in classic fashion of this show — we don't see it on-screen.
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2/9/2023 06:32:44 pm
Yup, agreed for the most part. It was bumped up a couple notches for me because I liked the killer reveal and how the mystery got a bit more of a focus, but it was still pretty awful. It got a few extra points for me for not going with the cliche reveal of having Velma's mom be the killer, and I thought Victoria being the culprit was at least somewhat clever even if there were many plot holes. Honestly I found all of my #5-10 really bad, and I'd be willing to switch around 5-8 on any given day as they're pretty similar levels of bad IMO. I still stand by the fact episode 3 and 4 are the absolute worst of the show IMO.
Becker
2/10/2023 04:28:32 am
I think they also gave almost no closure cuz they were so confident they'd get a second season that they went "Meh, whatever, we've got more time to resolve this shit, who cares if it's the season finale, we'll get to it next time". I hope there's no next time. 2/10/2023 08:51:34 am
Yeah, I could absolutely see the writers thinking that. I also hope this is over, which is something I've never said before about a Scooby show.
Becker
2/10/2023 09:40:12 am
After Velma and Gigi's conversation in the shower where Velma almost cries and then runs when realizing Gigi's right, I immediately knew I was in for some pain lmao. I was really hoping Velma wouldn't fall in love with Norville, but this show loves making the worst decisions possible. I could not stop rolling my eyes during the "I Will Remember You" scene. Not even Norville showing he's the only decent person in the show though those VMs could save the god-awfulness. Speaking of, Norville is still the only somewhat positive takeaway from this show, along with Fred's "so dumb it's funny" moments. It's partly why I interpret Norville's "I love you too" as platonic, as to not tarnish Norville as the likable character of the bunch.
Becker
2/10/2023 09:41:40 am
I meant through those VMs*. 2/10/2023 12:55:05 pm
The fact that Velma has behaved as the most unlikable jerk possible makes the writers trying to create an emotional moment during that "I Will Remember You" scene insufferable to get through. They had already assassinated her character so badly at this point that doing a random emotional revelation of Velma's feelings for Norville wasn't even the slightest bit compelling; it was pure cringe. Agreed 100% that Norville is the only good character, other than some occasional laughs from Fred. I like your face-saving interpretation of Norville only saying "I love you" as platonic; I may choose to headcanon that as well haha.
MysteryMan59
2/9/2023 05:03:39 pm
While I'm glad the season is over, I didn't completely hate the final couple of episodes. It was really interesting to see everything finally come together. There's still some issue between the characters, but I'd say they all earned those keys in the end, even if they couldn't agree on anything. Honestly, if the show by some kind of miracle does get a 2nd season, I'd probably still be willing check it out. If there's one connection we can all probably appreciate that Velma has with Mystery Incorporated, it's that Fred has sucky parents.
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2/9/2023 06:35:42 pm
I'm glad you enjoyed the final couple episodes! The character issues overshadowed it for me, particularly Velma's increasingly awful characterization in these last two. I'll watch season 2 as well if there is one, even though I'm sure it will be no better than this season. Fred has definitely gotten the short end of the stick in terms of parents in those two shows, although interesting he had arguably the nicest parents we've seen in the franchise for any main character in Pirates Ahoy.
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MysteryMan59
2/9/2023 09:06:43 pm
Yeah, Fred's parents were cool in that movie.
MysteryMan59
2/9/2023 05:10:47 pm
Plus that thing at the end with the horror Boo-Boo Bear show is basically "Boo-Boo Runs Wild" all over again.
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2/9/2023 06:36:57 pm
I'd honestly never heard of this special, but I just looked it up and yikes, that looks pretty bad lol.
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MysteryMan59
2/9/2023 09:05:38 pm
Yeah, even I didn't spend time watching that. Honestly, it's possible Velma is better than that one.
Gatherer Hade
2/9/2023 05:55:31 pm
Well it's done.
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Gatherer Hade
2/9/2023 05:58:10 pm
So many typos - sorry. That was V2 of the post. The original disappeared into the aether after I hit submit.
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2/9/2023 06:44:43 pm
Yeah, I think streaming numbers will also definitely be a big factor as for if it's renewed, but I assume they'll also take into account how the public reception affects the brand. Velma's character was my biggest problem too, with both the series and these two episodes. She's so unlikeable and cruel to everyone around her, and has pretty much zero character development. I think I could have forgiven the humor easier had it not felt like the writers were more interested in being edgy than moving along the main plot; there were so many times throughout these ten episodes where they rushed along the mystery or left plot holes just for the sake of having more jokes.
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James Dixon
2/10/2023 04:01:15 am
I don't understand why "Velma" is being used a social commentary platform, instead of just focusing on a good mystery/story. It's not just Velma making snarky comments during the mystery, it's the story coming to a grinding halt every minute so that Mindy Kaling can make a dated observation of what's going on.
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2/10/2023 08:57:42 am
Completely agreed. I think I'd be more forgiving of the comedy if the writers didn't constantly feel the need to distract from the story with their terrible social commentaries. Even if it toned down where they did maybe a few social commentary jokes per episode, it'd be far more tolerable. And yeah, the jokes are made in a very tongue-in-cheek, extreme way, so I absolutely agree with you that they're just making jokes to screw around and/or say how they feel.
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James Dixon
2/10/2023 09:38:11 am
@WWV I wouldn't want to check another Mindy Kaling show out after this either.
James Dixon
2/10/2023 09:46:31 am
I did the @ cos I was responding to both WWV and Alexandra, but I only made the one comment. 2/10/2023 01:00:38 pm
I completely agree with your thoughts, James. It's hard to take this seriously as a Velma origin story when this character is so unlike Velma, and very much feels like a self-insert for Mindy. Social commentaries are great if they fit well into the story, but they were actually a hindrance to the development of the plot here. It comes off as random and unfunny at its best, and try-hard at worst.
Alexandra Rutt
2/10/2023 09:07:08 am
James these are my thoughts exactly. I don't believe either of the show's creators actually feel passionately about the issues they make jokes about. They're just making these jokes because they know they're "suppose to". As cringe'y as Bojack Horseman could be, i at least felt most of the social commentary was coming from a real place and problems the writers were going through.
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2/10/2023 01:02:51 pm
Agreed that the accusations of her being racist and sexist are ridiculous. The issue isn't the content of the jokes themselves, it's that they aren't executed well and usually don't support the story or character development in any way.
Mr Neither
2/10/2023 04:17:04 am
My overall summary: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FohrOitWcAECg_t?format=jpg&name=900x900
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2/10/2023 08:59:12 am
Hahahaha I love that. Completely agreed with you, the ending was awful and I'm hopeful we do not get a season 2 of this.
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Mr Neither
2/10/2023 12:06:35 pm
What takes the piss even more is the fact WB trash the Scoob sequel yet still give us this pile of flaming turd. I feel sorry for Scoob's writers and staff seeing their work shelved never to see the light of day and then seeing this released only a short while later. 2/10/2023 12:51:03 pm
I can't even imagine how those writers are feeling right now. They put so much work into it, yet WB greenlit this awful show and canned them.
James Dixon
2/10/2023 10:06:09 am
Just give Birdgirl a go and see how it's done right.
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Mr Neither
2/10/2023 12:02:57 pm
Or Road Rovers.
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2/10/2023 01:03:15 pm
I haven't watched that series, but I will have to check it out at some point. It would not take much to be better than this haha.
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James Dixon
2/10/2023 10:13:37 am
I think of all the bad jokes that they made, it was the Mystery Machine looking like a pedo van got to me the most. Because I have never once read anybody say that, ever.
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Alexandra Rutt
2/10/2023 11:32:05 am
I've heard people say it looks like a rape van but i guess they added pedo to make it 3x as edgy
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2/10/2023 01:06:05 pm
To me, that joke came off as one of the show's many attempts to try overly hard to be edgy. I have admittedly heard one person call it that as a joke, but I don't think the joke has any basis in what people actually have ever said or thought; it's just the show trying to be edgy for the sake of it.
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Matt
2/10/2023 10:30:48 am
Still haven’t seen it. Mainly because once I saw how the reaction was at first, I figured I need to wait until the discourse dies down and hope that my opinion is more clear for me. Granted, after a while, it seems like this will make no difference
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Becker
2/10/2023 11:25:22 am
I'm curious if you're gonna watch it eventually. There's barely anything to like about it. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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Matt
2/10/2023 05:29:18 pm
I plan to eventually. Truth be told, I’m not in any rush at the moment. There’s a lot of elements that, while I still won’t make judgements before watching completely, there’s some stuff that now that it is out there, I truly KNOW I will not like one bit 2/10/2023 01:08:29 pm
I'll be really interested to hear your thoughts if you watch this!
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Matt
2/10/2023 05:30:39 pm
If they only look at the numbers, I could see them trying season 2, but I agree, if there is a season 2 it would fail miserably with not many watching it at all, since a lot of the viewers already were because it was controversial, and the controversy would die down by then
Gibby Norton
2/10/2023 10:43:16 am
Velma is a huge disappointment, to say the least. It has great art direction, a talented voice cast, and then on top of that the overall premise of a Scooby-Doo murder mystery. The show delivers stale humor, flat and despicable characterizations, and minimal focus on its extra stupid brain-swapping mystery. It also attempts to be a nonstop parody and does meta-commentary like if the Scream franchise were on crack and also if Scream sucked (which it does not, lol). It's so filled with these really unpleasant characters, especially Velma as the completely apathetic and unfunny lead, that I'm not sure why I would want to spend any more time in this world with these characters.
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2/10/2023 01:23:33 pm
I haven't talked about it very much since there's so much else to unpack with these haha, but I have come around to the art direction of the series. It's not my favorite art style by any means, but it's not bad either. I liked the voice cast and thought they worked well as the gang, but content-wise, it was pretty disastrous. That's why I feel like they may cancel season 2 even if it is supposedly already in production...in the series entire run, I have only seen one person say they liked the show or Velma as a character, which is definitely saying something. However, if they're only taking ratings into account, I could see this getting renewed.
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Gatherer Hade
2/13/2023 02:09:55 am
I thought the Brain Swap project was one of the better ideas, and does fit in with some of the real CIA/Military projects from the 60s & 70s. Problem was the set up was too hasty and only appeared in the second half of the season. Needed a bigger build up as a slow burn.
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2/13/2023 08:02:36 am
I completely agree with you. My biggest issue with the mystery plot was that it felt rushed and almost like an afterthought compared to some of the humor. Had it gotten more time to develop, I think it would be much better.
Mystery5
2/10/2023 09:00:41 pm
So it got better way over time especially with things finally starting to make it seem like the gang is turning into themselves we all know and love in episode 10! Also she finally lost her glasses in Episode 10! Hahaha
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Becker
2/11/2023 03:32:30 am
They were not at all turning into themselves
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2/11/2023 08:12:43 am
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the show. I didn't feel they were turning into themselves, but it's good the characters became more likable for you as the series progressed.
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Jacob Berger
2/11/2023 04:34:39 pm
I always said to myself that I’ll watch the first episode of Velma and if I don’t like the first episode then I’ll stop watching the entire show. Well I was wrong. This show was terrible and every episode was terrible but I stuck it through and gave it a chance. I ended up watching every episode and that’s because I’m a Scooby-Doo fan no matter what happens.
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2/11/2023 06:47:32 pm
That's been my mindset too. I didn't really like any of the episodes of the show, but I'm kind of a completist that likes to watch everything attached to franchises I really like. I'll probably watch season 2 as well if they end up renewing the show.
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Amber noel
2/12/2023 05:38:25 pm
I don't think this show is going to kill the franchise or have any other huge impact on it but will the backlash prevent us from getting specifically adult from this franchise in awhile? we are getting mystery pups which is for a much younger audience and the other scooby doo content are likely going to get more normal scooby doo content.
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2/12/2023 06:22:10 pm
Completely agreed with you. I think it will be a while before we get another adult series as a result of the backlash, unless this gets renewed for a second season.
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Amber noel
2/12/2023 06:51:51 pm
To me it seems like the route they are going with the franchise is to have the show stray away from the source material while having the DTVS be more like the classic.
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2/12/2023 09:20:41 pm
Yep I agree, it will be interesting to see if that continues after Mystery Pups.
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