At New York Comic Con, many fans were curious as to why Scooby-Doo would not be appear in Velma. During his presentation at NYCC, series creator Charlie Grandy said not his motivation for not including Scooby was to attempt to have a more adult take on the other characters, highlighted in an interview with ScreenRant.
"What made Scooby-Doo a kid show is Scooby-Doo. We couldn’t have a take on it, like how can we do this in a fun and modern way." Grandy said. "[Our efforts] coincided with Warner Bros. Animation saying we can’t use the dog!” In addition, the character designs were revealed for Velma, Daphne and Shaggy at the panel. In addition to Velma being made Indian for the show, Shaggy is now black and Daphne is now Asian. Charlie responded to fan criticisms of changing the race of the characters saying that this is kind of like their version of Into the Spider-Verse, which is a critically acclaimed Marvel film that changed Spider-Man into a person of color. The character designs can be seen above.
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ZaroshOfHyrule
10/9/2022 10:35:47 am
I don’t see the purpose in using these already established characters if you aren’t going to use the star of the franchise. To me, it feels like the studio did not have enough faith to green-light the project without it being associated to a pre-existing franchise. Ultimately, making it feel cheap and hollow. 10/9/2022 10:59:58 am
I definitely think it's possible that they felt they needed to attach this show to a famous property for it to succeed, but I guess for me personally, I am waiting to judge it until it comes out.
Matt
10/9/2022 11:50:57 am
It is not uncommon for someone to want to make a show where they take something they love and re-imagine it a bit
Prime1986
10/9/2022 05:40:35 pm
I think that maybe the idea of the show was too close to a tv14 or tvMA show version of Scooby-Doo they just decided why not just make it a Scooby show? Them not adding Scooby is a weird concept but this is a prequel show right? Maybe they will add Scooby as like the series or a season finale thing. 10/9/2022 06:28:01 pm
From what I can gather from the interview, it definitely seems like a prequel show. I'll be interested if Scooby appears briefly at the end or something. I suppose they could also do what they did in the Daphne & Velma novels and have Scooby be present, but not able to talk.
Becker
10/9/2022 10:48:04 am
Correction: Into the Spider-Verse didn't change Peter Parker's race. They had Miles Morales as the main Spider-Man, who is a different Spider-Man from the comics. At the same time there's also Peter Parker Spider-Men in that movie that are white. 10/9/2022 11:01:18 am
Ah you're right, that was my bad. It's been a while since I've seen the film, so I forgot they gave Spider-Man a different name in this film. I hadn't read the comics either so I wasn't aware Miles was in them as well. That's really cool!
Matt
10/9/2022 11:51:39 am
^ this. Exceptional movie btw
whackman
10/9/2022 11:17:05 am
The series comes out some time next so I doubt we will get another trailer before that. Especially since the first one came out recently.
Carson Maitland - Smith
10/9/2022 12:40:19 pm
Let's hope this gets a 2nd season after next year.
Scoobylover
10/11/2022 01:28:00 am
They’re actually already working on Season 2. I’ll bring the receipts as soon as I can! 10/11/2022 09:51:38 am
That's awesome, Scoobylover! Looking forward to seeing the receipts :)
Shadowscooby
10/9/2022 01:57:35 pm
I’m not really bothered by them making Shaggy black. There were other shows that changed a characters race. Examples: Rise of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles version of April o Neil was black, while previous incarnations were white. The upcoming My Adventures With Superman series will depict Jimmy Olson as black while previous incarnations he was white. Upcoming animated series Spiderman: Freshman Year, Norman Osborn will be black while previous incarnations he was white. 10/9/2022 05:30:50 pm
I'm not really bothered either. I wasn't aware of any of those shows, but it's good to know that it was done well in other shows too!
Shadowscooby
10/9/2022 02:01:32 pm
Come to think of it this black version can be a mixture of Shaggy and Scooby.
Carson Maitland - Smith
10/9/2022 05:41:31 pm
That'll work
ScoobyVerse
10/9/2022 07:45:23 pm
So far from the promos, it just seems they think being “edgy” will help the show succeed. “You don’t like that we changed an entire genre that’s been the same for 53 years? Good, we don’t care! We are being so funny mocking those people this will for sure make people love us!” Forced meta humor is not comedic. It’s annoying and I assume with the way it’s going something along the lines of “this will for sure give me social media protection!” It’s not funny. You don’t like the show for genuine concerns I’ve seen people say “cope, racist”. When was I being racist? It was most definitely pitched as a different show and just mid way said “oh WB owns Scooby-Doo let’s just put this random nerdy girl as Velma. This will for sure help us if we ultimately fail, still bring in people who like Scooby-Doo.” But at the end of the day Scooby isn’t going to be in it, should it be called a Scooby-Doo project? Scooby-Doo is forbidden from even being in the show because of the adult content presented. He is just as important as an IP as Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse. Warner Brothers doesn’t want to see him maturely tainted. Mystery Incorporated was put onto Be Cool Scooby-Doo because of parents complaining of the mature tone. Scooby-Doo was then told to retcon real monsters due to parents complaints with the previous ones. In 2018 was when they made the decision to put Scooby-Doo purely made for the younger ones from what my source has told me. This confirms it. Scooby is a character for 7 year olds at the end of the day. Multiversus has a mature language filter so Bugs Bunny and soon to be Scooby aren’t even exposed to bad language if kept on. Even with it off Shaggy and Velma do not cuss. So obviously with the sexual inclusions, violence, gore, language…Scooby can’t be in this. At least with Daphne and Velma he could have been in the movie if asked, but here no. So as I restate my question, is this even a Scooby-Doo project? 10/10/2022 08:30:19 am
Even though I might not agree, I do agree with you that not liking the show does not automatically make someone racist. There have been plenty of racist criticisms of the show, but there are so many reasons out there that people might not want to watch that, and I think that's perfectly okay. I personally am going to check out the show and liked the teaser, but everybody has different tastes and that's okay.
Dimitri Brenick
10/9/2022 07:51:19 pm
not gonna watch it, this was decided when show was first anounced just cause to me it doesn't feel right. now i'm more sure that this show will have leftist politics that over shadow the story. I really hate having said that cause i do normally agree with the left, but most of the time they do race changing, it's done to try to make a political story that ends up coming off as cringey and one sided, (supergirl of CW had this problem). Also, i'm sorry but the designs of character are so awful, shaggy is the only one that's passable but he's also the one who leasts looks like the character he's suppose to be. Shaggy is a timid hippy who in school would be seen as the weird kid, this version screams the opposite. if they wanted to make him black, then use shorty meeks from "scary movie" as a reference given that i could see that character be like shaggy.
Carson Maitland - Smith
10/10/2022 07:47:47 am
I say we all keep our fingers crossed for better Scooby-Doo projects, No matter what happens in 2023.
Mr Neither
10/10/2022 01:10:52 pm
I hate that I go into a Scooby series wanting it to fail. I'm away until tomorrow so haven't been keeping up to date here but will say the following:
Amber noel
10/10/2022 02:23:53 pm
I don't think this show is going to do well and I am not saying it because I hate it, I don't honestly I think the backlash is overblow for a show that hasn't even come out yet. It's just given how much backlash the show has gotten since the show was announced it doesn't seem like it. 10/10/2022 02:44:51 pm
I agree that the backlash for the show is overkill. I completely understand that some people don't want to watch it, and that's a perfectly okay choice. As I've mentioned before though, I don't understand the whole "OMG this will ruin Scooby!" type comments. There isn't any reason to get that bent out of shape about a show that hasn't even aired yet. If people don't like it, then they don't have to watch it. There's plenty of other old Scooby content to watch, and I'm sure there will be lots more Scooby content in the future. But yeah, I fear you're right that the extreme backlash for the show will mean that it probably won't be renewed for another season, simply because people are being so angry about the show before it even comes out.
Dimitri Brenick
10/10/2022 05:38:34 pm
it will hurt the brand if it is politically driven, that's happen to arrowverse, steven universe, and star verses the forces of evil. though i personally thought svtfoe did it right.
Carson Maitland - Smith
10/10/2022 06:33:25 pm
Velma's gonna get so many low ratings
Jakob123
10/14/2022 01:59:36 pm
Glenn Howerton, Constance Wu and Sam Richardson? never heard of them. 10/14/2022 03:44:24 pm
I haven't heard of any of those people either, but I'm looking forward to this new series!
Drakosleuth
10/14/2022 10:36:49 pm
I'm going to give this show a fair chance, and if it doesn't work for me, then that is fine. I gave Scooby Apocalypse a try and after reading the first issue, it didn't work for me; so I decided to read the other comics until something else came along, and if Velma doesn't work for me, then I'll wait for something else while enjoying the older content. This show doesn't permanently change the entire franchise, it is just a project that WB is testing the waters with, and if people like it or not, that is fine, everyone has their opinions and preferences.
Carson Maitland - Smith
10/14/2022 11:47:59 pm
Well said. 10/15/2022 08:56:23 am
That is a great mentality to have on the show and I wish more people thought about this like you did. It feels like a lot of people counted this show out from the moment it was announced, even without knowing much about it.
Carson Maitland - Smith
10/15/2022 08:39:35 am
Will Mindy Kaling be hosting a Q&A for the Velma series?
Jakob123
10/15/2022 04:48:52 pm
I am confused how come the person who drew these designs changed Shaggys race and bio appearance for this upcoming series? 10/15/2022 08:36:55 pm
I guess we'll have to wait and see what the character is like once the show starts. Maybe they changed his personality in the show and that's why they changed his appearance.
Dimitri Brenick
10/18/2022 08:44:47 am
Then that would mean he's not shaggy and therefore we are being lied to. change personality or looks is one thing but to change both drastically is problematic. don't use shaggy's name if you aren't actually making them shaggy. this really should go for all characters though with shaggy it's much more noticeable. Leave a Reply. |
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