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4/24/2022

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Here are the results from last week. I must say from people were saying in the comments, I'm a little surprised about the winner!
What is your favorite wrestling episode/film?
Scooby-Doo! WrestleMania Mystery - 28
Wrestle Maniacs (What's New) - 24
Scooby-Doo! Curse of the Speed Demon - 13
All the wrestling episodes/films are awful, wrestling in general is awful, in fact, all sports are just plain awful - 11
Wrestle Maniacs (Pup) - 7
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Shadowscooby
4/24/2022 09:19:08 am

What’s New Scooby Doo Villans Season 1
Snow Creature - Great and Creepy Villain
Dinosaur Spirit - Great Villain
Alien - Great, Creepy and Somewhat Original Villain
Ghosts of Jen and Caleb Leland - Great and Creepy Villains
Possessed Mystery Machine - Great and Original Villain
Ghost of Rufus Raucous - Great, Creepy and Cool Villain
Roller Ghoaster - Great, Creepy, and Original Villain
Jungle Demons - Great and Creepy Villains
Motoshandu - Great Villain
Headless Snowman - Great, Creepy, Creative and Original Villain
Living Toys - Great, Creepy and Original Villains
Faceless Phantom - Great, Creepy and Cool Villain
Zombie Gladiator - Great and Creepy Villain
Emperor - Good Villain
Baseball Specter - Great, Cool and Creepy Villain

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 10:09:55 am

Here are my rankings for season 1. Lots of great ones here!

Great - Snow Creature, Alien, Leland Brothers Ghosts, Mystery Machine, Ghost of Rufus Raucous, Roller Ghoster, Motoshandu, Headless Snowman, Faceless Phantom, Zombie Gladiator, Baseball Specter

Good - Gigantosaurus, Emperor

Okay - Jungle Demons, Living Toys

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 10:59:33 am

I forgot I was doing averages now. Great is 4 points, Good is 3 points, Okay is 2 points, and Bad is 1 point.

Average: 3.6

WildwindVampire link
6/19/2022 09:48:22 am

Going back and redoing this one so all the averages are on the same scale. This converts to a 2.6.

Shadowscooby
4/24/2022 10:35:53 am

What’s New Scooby Doo Villans Season 2
30 ft Shaggy - Great, Cool, and Original Villain
Mummy of Scames IX - Great, Creepy, and Scary Villain
El Gusano Giant Worm - Great and Original Villain
SHARI - Great, Creepy and Original Villain
Jeeves - Good and Creepy Villain
Vampire - Great and Creepy
Scarecrows - Great and Creepy Villains
Ghost of Hank Banning - Great and Creepy Villain
Cat Creature - Great Villain
Sanfranpsyco - Great, Cool, and Creepy Villain
Invisible Madman - Great, Creepy, and Original Villain
Scooby Snacks Monster - Great, Creepy and Original Villain
Glassburgh Dragon - Great Villain
Fish Fiend - Great, Cool, and Scary Villain
Wakumi - Great Villain
Centaur - Great and Creepy Villain

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 10:54:48 am

Great - Mummy, El Gusano Grande, SHARI, Jeeves, Vampire, Scarecrow, Ghost of Hank Banning, San Franpsycho, Invisible Madman, Scooby Snacks Monster, Dragon, Wakumi, Centaur

Good - 30 Foot Shaggy, The Ancient One (I wish he would have appeared more and that we could have gotten some sort of clue as to who he was, since they never really addressed that plot point happening at the end), Cat Creature, Evil Scooby, Fish Fiend

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 11:00:45 am

Average: 3.72

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WildwindVampire link
6/19/2022 09:49:04 am

Converted average: 2.72

Shadowscooby
4/24/2022 10:47:36 am

What’s New Scooby Doo Villans Season 3
Creepy Keeper - Great and Creepy Villain
Dauntless Skeleton Crew - Gods and Creepy Villains
Cole Steel and his gang - Good Villains
Demonic Mystery Inc Clones - Great, Cool, Creative, Creepy and Original Villains
Titanic Twist - Great, Creepy, Freaky and Original Villain
Gargoyle - Great and Creepy Villain
Demon Farmer - Great, Creepy and Original Villain
Frozen Fiend - Great, Cool and Original Villain
Menacing Metallic Clown - Great, Cool, Creepy and Original Villain
Toxic Terror - Great, Creepy and Original Villain
Hong Kong Dragon - Great and Cool Villain
Skeleton Driver/Racer - Great and Cool Villain
Gold Monster- Great, Creepy and Original Villain
Coral Creature - Great, Creepy and Original Villain
Osomons - Great, Cute and Creepy Villains

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 10:57:20 am

Great - Creepy Keeper, Dauntless Skeleton Crew, Mystery Inc. Clones, Titanic Twist, Demon Farmer, Frozen Fiend, Menacing Metallic Clown, Toxic Terror, Skeleton Driver/Racecar, Coral Creature, Osomons

Good - Colt Steel, Gargoyle, Dragon, Gold Monster, Zombies

Bad - Sand People

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 11:02:09 am

Average: 3.52

WildwindVampire link
6/19/2022 09:53:14 am

Converted average: 2.58

Mr Neither
4/24/2022 01:11:02 pm

Season 1:
Excellent: Ghost of Rufus Raucous, Roller Ghoster, Sea serpent, Headless Snowman, Faceless phantom, Zombie Gladiator
Good: Possessed Mystery MAchine, Jungle Demons, Living Toys
Meh: Dinosaur, Snow Creature, Space Ape, Leland brothers ghosts, Emperor dude, Baseball specter
Utterly Ridiculous:

Season 2:
Excellent: 30 foot Shaggy, Mummy of Scamses, Gusano Grande, Fortescu Vampire, San Franpsycho, Invisible madman, Scooby Snack Monster, Glasborough dragon, Wakumi bird,
Good: Cat Creature, Finned Fiend
Meh: Robot House
Utterly Ridiculous:
Just awful: The scarecrows, Hank banning projection, centaur

Season 3:
Excellent: Mystery inc clones, Titanic Twist, Frozen Fiend, Metallic clown, hong kong dragon, Gold monster, reef monster
Good: Creepy Keeper, Gargoyle, Demon Farmer, skeleton racer
Meh: toxic terror, osomons
Totally ridiculous:
Off the scale Diabolical: The western robots.

Season 2 wins.

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Mr Neither
4/24/2022 01:19:50 pm

Oh, we continuing averages, okay
Season 1: 3
Season 2: 3.6* (ignoring anomalies), 2.93* with anomalies
Season 3: 3.39 or 3.14

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 06:40:18 pm

Nice rankings! I'm a little surprised to see the Centaur in your awful rankings, as I didn't mind it. I was also surprised to the see the Leland Ghosts and Toxic Terror in your "meh" category. I like your "off the scale diabolical" tier haha.

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Samuel Kirkwood
4/25/2022 10:51:52 am

With the centaur I was just like no, I've had enough of Greek mythological creatures, meh category, Leland brothers just didn't feel had anything special about them. As for the toxic terror, never really liked that episode

WildwindVampire link
4/25/2022 04:15:10 pm

Fair enough. Interesting you disliked "Camp Comeoniwannascareya." Was it just because Fred, Velma and Daphne weren't in it?

Matt
4/25/2022 11:10:54 pm

I’ll speak for myself, but that honestly does play a part of why I personally dislike that episode as well. I feel like the gang dynamic is a key to the series in this incarnation

But that is something that puts it at a disadvantage, it still could’ve bounced back from that. Unfortunately, the episode was also pretty bad in its own right. The characters that were there were pretty unengaging imo, with Dennis being the only one that I felt was a somewhat interesting character. I think the toxic stuff was pretty dumb, although that is more personal taste than anything. Overall, felt pretty shallow as a test pilot episode. It might’ve been better if the other characters were better developed (or better yet, actually interesting)

Lastly, Camp Scare is just PAINFULLY so much better, whether it be the use of the setting, making interesting side characters, the mystery, everything. I understand the mystery part of that is not a fair comparison to a 20 minute episode, but those other two absolutely could’ve been improved in the episode

WildwindVampire link
4/26/2022 09:36:39 am

I remember that you don't like "Camp Comeoniwannascareya." I agree Camp Scare is definitely better, but I guess I enjoyed the episode for its uniqueness even if the characters could have been developed better. Not my favorite What's New, Scooby-Doo? episode, but I don't mind it.

Mr Neither
4/27/2022 05:18:21 am

Having watched it again I don't think it is as bad as I remembered and still better than a lot of modern episodes but I think I have to agree that missing Fred, Daphne and Velma is a huge blow. It also seems rather slow paced compared to other episodes and it seems to lack that twist
or mystery element that would make it a great episode. Overall I think the whole mystery is also simplified due to the new gang being kids and although a fair episode compared to some of the best of WNSD it just can't compete. I did find one error. At the pie eating contest at 9:31 the kid sitting next to Shaggy and Scooby has dark brown hair, if you go to 10:01 you can now see in the background he has blonde hair!

WildwindVampire link
4/27/2022 05:10:35 pm

I agree with you it's definitely not one of the best WNSD episodes, but I enjoy it for what it is. And thank you! I'll have to use that as an upcoming fun fact :)

Becker
4/24/2022 01:17:30 pm

Wildwind, those averages are so incredibly close. Speaks a lot to the consistency of What's New. Just like with The Scooby-Doo Show, I'm stumped by this poll. I feel like each of the WNSD seasons is deserving of the win. I guess I'll go with season 2, if anything purely for the Invisible Madman and SHARI.

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 06:41:54 pm

I honestly had no idea what I was picking before I did the averages, because all of these WNSD seasons are so incredibly consistent. It's a nice step up from most of the previous series, including the early ones and Pup, where you'd get an amazing villain in one episode and then a completely awful one in the next. I'll be very interested to see the results for this one.

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Jakob123
4/24/2022 03:04:40 pm

All of the Above

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 06:42:25 pm

Agreed, all of these seasons are amazing but based on the averages I calculated, season 2 is slightly better for me and is what I voted.

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Matt
4/24/2022 03:20:51 pm

COME ON, the Pup episode AT LEAST deserved more than the none of the above option. I also would’ve much rather seen the What’s New episode win than Wrestlemania but oh well

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 06:43:39 pm

I was kind of shocked to see the Pup episode come in dead last, even below the silly "everything's awful" option lol. The WrestleMania film winning surprised me a bit, though I think the only one I would have been frustrated to see win would have been Curse of the Speed Demon.

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Matt
4/25/2022 11:03:41 pm

I’m not surprised Wrestlemania won, but it definitely did not do much for me personally. I’ve never actually seen Curse of the Speed Demon, but I would probably be baffled if that won. The positive reactions I have seen have been very… limited on that one

WildwindVampire link
4/26/2022 09:38:24 am

I was more surprised because everybody was picking the WNSD episode in the comments and I hadn't looked at the results until tallying them up, so I was a bit surprised to see so many for that movie haha. Curse of the Speed Demon isn't horrible, but it's not great either. Having the wrestlers compete in a race was always an odd premise to me. If you didn't like the first movie, I can't imagine you'll like this one any better.

Matt
4/28/2022 02:39:26 pm

It wasn’t like I hated the first one, I just found it to be mediocre. And yeah, I was always confused as to why they would make a WWE crossover about racing

Matt
4/24/2022 04:07:33 pm

I will be going back to my old scale with one slight adjustment. I made bad a negative number, so I put a meh as 0 points. Here is my complicated but fun to make scale:

GOAT- 5 points (Some of my favorites of all time)
Excellent- 4 points (Somewhat exclusive group of standouts)
Good- 3 points (In most cases, the group with the most)
Hilariously ridiculous- 2 points (Title says it all)
Decent- 1 point (It’s fine)
Meh- 0 points (Doesn’t do much for me)
Bad- -1 point (As have negative feelings about it)
Terribly Ridiculous- -2 points (Ridiculous but not in a funny way, but a stupid or annoying way)
Truly awful- -3 points (Either completely lame and uncreative (real life Buster McMuttMauler), completely uninteresting or worthless (Buster again), or utterly repulsive (Paula P Casso))

Season 1:
Excellent- Leland Brothers, Mystery Machine, Faceless Phantom, Emperor

Good- Snow Creature, Rufus Raucous, Roller Ghoster, Jungle Demons, Headless Snowman, Baseball Specter, Zombie Gladiator

Hilariously Ridiculous- Living toys,

Decent- Gigantosaurus, Alien

Meh- Motoshandu

Average: 2.73

Season 2:

GOAT: Invisible Madman, mummy (By FAR the best mummy they have ever done)

Excellent: Zombie tourists, San Franpsycho, Ghost of Hank Banning, Scarecrows, Dragon

Good: El Gusano Grande, SHARI, Jeeves, Vampire, Wakumi, Centaur, Fish Fiend

Hilariously Ridiculous: Worm people

Decent: Scooby Snacks Monster, Cat Creature, Evil Scooby, The ancient one

Meh: 30 foot shaggy

Average: 2.71


Season 3:

Excellent: Creepy Keeper, Clones, Demon Farmer, Gold monster

Good: Dauntless Skeleton Crew, Robots, Frozen Fiend, Titanic Twist, Osomons, Gargoyle, Dragon, Metallic Clown, Skeleton driver

Bad: Zombies

Terribly Ridiculous: Toxic Terror, Coral Creature

Truly awful: Sand people (they do serve their point in the plot of course, but they are completely worthless as villains)

Average: 2.06

Season 1 and 2’s averages are close enough for me to overrule the math and declare season 2 as my winner. Invisible Madman, Mummy, and even those zombie tourists are all really, really good

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Matt
4/24/2022 04:09:30 pm

I almost put the 30 foot Shaggy in Terribly Ridiculous but I just didn't think that I disliked it enough to get -2 points

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WildwindVampire link
4/24/2022 06:49:07 pm

I like that you made the bad ones a negative number! I'll have to try that one with the next poll. I completely agree that this was the best mummy they've ever done. I didn't think about including the Worm People or the Zombie Tourists. If I would have included them, the Worm People would have gone in "meh" while the Zombie Tourists would have gone in the great category. Our lists were really similar, although I didn't really care for the Jungle Animals. They just felt like kind of boring villains to me. I didn't put the Zombies from season 3 in bad since I was kind of indifferent to them. They showed up for a few seconds and that was it. I kind of liked how unique the 30 Foot Shaggy was, although I know a lot of people don't like him.

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Matt
4/25/2022 11:01:21 pm

The Zombie Tourists were SO good. I almost put them in the GOAT tier

The Jungle animals were always just pretty interesting to me. Also, it is similar to Zombie Island where the ones who appear to be the monsters are actually the victims, so I thought that twist was interesting

I just found the zombies pretty pointless. Good for a joke and good as side characters I guess, but in the conversation of villains, they were pretty lousy lol

WildwindVampire link
4/26/2022 09:42:43 am

Yeah, the Zombie Tourists are amazing! I'd never thought of the jungle animals as being similar to Zombie Island, but you're right! I can see the appeal of them. Agreed about the other zombies haha.




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