Velma Episode 5 and 6 Review
I can't believe we're already halfway through the series! I have to admit I didn't dislike these episodes as much as last week's, but the show is still by no means good IMO. More of the jokes landed for me this week, and I particularly liked the joke of somebody crashing headfirst through a window when the police said "intolerance." It was so goofy and ridiculous I'll admit it got a laugh out of me. As an aficionado of dad jokes, I also liked the "you must be this neander-tall to ride" pun haha. The Casey Kasem bit was fun too. I liked the little reference to him and I was happy they did something tasteful, given the show's track record of making everything as inappropriate as possible.
Speaking of which, the plot about Daphne's parents was really interesting. It still felt a bit rushed and could have been developed better than it was, but it was at least engaging unlike the constant shock humor in the last two episodes. I liked how Daphne's parents were dressed up like Captain Caveman, as well as the nod to Fred, Wilma and Pebbles, and the caveman from Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?. The Jetsons reference was also interesting. I also noticed the eyes in the dark were drawn in the same style as The New Scooby-Doo Movies, and Shaggy has a poster of Charlie the Funland Robot on his wall. We also get to see Captain Cutler, whom Velma actually captures when fishing with her dad.
While there was a little bit of mystery on Velma's end, the whole marching band plot was initially interesting, but it turned into another "WTF" moment for me. The idea of a marching band sleepover where all the band members are playing their instruments at the party was funny, but it quickly devolved when the marching band started eating Velma's carpets and furniture because they hadn't been fed. I don't necessarily feel it was inappropriate or a bad joke, it was just kinda weird. I also thought the joke with the trombone was a great example of how this show takes what could have been funny and makes it mean-spirited. I thought the guy making the "wah wah" noise when Daphne didn't get what she wanted was funny, but then Daphne kicked the guy in the crotch. I don't like this show's tendency to make the characters cruel like that. The trombone joke was funny on its own, so I don't understand why the writers feel they need to turn the knob from 1 to 100 and make the jokes as in-your-face and antagonistic as possible.
That being said, there were actually a few extreme jokes that made me laugh this time. I liked the police putting out the "only murderers walk the streets at night" sign. The flashback where the mine's owner just randomly says "Mine's closed. Everyone's fired!" as all the lights shut off made me laugh quite a bit, just because it came so out of nowhere lol. That comment about Fred needing his previous actions covered up by an Israeli security firm also made me wonder what he did haha. The last joke I found funny was super quick and many people may have missed it, but I found it funny that the salad bag was marked "Salad!" with an exclamation point haha. I feel that these jokes demonstrate that the writers can actually write good material, so it's a shame they waste it on try-hard edgy stuff like Velma saying "no sweat off my underboobs!" and a cop intentionally running over Velma with his squad car.
Moving to episode 6, I enjoyed this one a little more too. I thought they did a decent job with the mystery elements this time, and I appreciated that we're starting to dive more into the mystery. Out of all the episodes so far, I would say the mystery felt least overshadowed in this episode. It was still overshadowed a bit by the weird stuff with Velma's dad, however, but I liked how the mystery at least didn't feel like an afterthought for a change.
It was really interesting to hear the backstory behind why Velma's mom disappeared. Given we're halfway through the show, I feel like we should have found out at least a few more details about that way before now, but better late than never I suppose haha. It was neat that the general's operation was named "SCOOBI," and how they incorporated masks and meddling kids into the plot. The bit at the end with the serial killer breathing heavily was really creepy, and I would say this is the first time in these three weeks that I've actually felt a little curious to find out what happens next. I felt they still cut corners a bit when it came to the mystery...like the explanation of how Daphne's parents found her felt rushed...but overall, I really appreciated that there was a bit more of a focus on the mystery.
I liked more of the humor than I did in previous episodes, although some of it still fell into the try-hard edgy category. I was surprised to find that a few of the "shock humor" jokes landed for me this time. Fred reading Yas Queens throughout History, only for his father to take it away and hand him a shot glass and loaded rifle was intense haha. Velma's mom and dad singing "just the three of us" as they spray mud all over Velma was similarly so shocking I have to admit I got a little chuckle out of it. One of my favorite jokes of the episode was Velma's father Googling "how to play catch." Let's hope that's not where our increasing reliance on the Internet is taking us lol. I also found it hilarious how Shaggy was acting tough and dressing up in a leather jacket that says "Mr. Bad Bear."
This episode also had the joke that I've probably laughed the hardest at, that being the part where Velma is outraged by her father installing a tracking app on her phone. His reaction of "Sophie installed it so you wouldn't catch us in bed talking smack about you!" was so shocking and random that I found it hilarious. Given how poorly characterized most of the characters are here, I have to admit it was pretty funny to have a meta-joke highlighting what terrible parents Velma has.
I still found some of the humor to be overly raunchy and try-hard edgy, most notably the bit where Velma's dad takes her to a strip club for lunch. One of the strippers being named "Chestiny" was particularly over-the-top. However, the biggest "WTF am I watching?" moment I've had in the episode, and the show thus far, was Velma deciding to do a pole dance because she's angry with her father, as guys shout things such as "Oh yeah baby, keep it all on!" This show certainly has a knack for creating unbearably weird moments to watch lol.
Oh, and we also learn Velma's previous catchphrase to Jinkies was "Keep it frosty!" which was very odd haha.
Overall, these two episodes were definitely an improvement on the last two, and I would say episode 6 might be the best in the show. That being said, "best" is a term to be taken lightly, since I still don't really enjoy for the show due to the poorly written characters, the try-hard edgy humor, and the cutting of corners when it comes to the mystery. However, these two episodes, particularly episode 6, were at least more tolerable and I found some enjoyment in them, whereas episode 3 and 4 were nearly unbearable slogs of nonsensical WTF moments. Perhaps a little bit of it is because I'm getting used to the inane weirdness of the show after seeing a few episodes, but I also did feel there was at least some meaningful mystery development in these episodes, which is definitely an improvement. I hope we continue to see more mystery development in the coming episodes.
1. The Sins of the Fathers and Some of the Mothers
2. Marching Band Sleepover
3. The Candy Man
5. Velma Makes a List
6. Velma Kai
1/26/2023 05:27:14 pm
It's so weird...
1/26/2023 06:09:27 pm
Yeah, I also find it kind of weird. They are becoming better characters but it's still hard to like them due to the strange and intentionally inappropriate nature of the plot.
1/26/2023 06:23:42 pm
One of the things I hate about this show, and I hated to comment before the series was over was the “Easter Eggs” they aren’t Easter Eggs if they are shoved in your face. Like the Caveman in this shop, or Captain Cutler, The Jetsons and the Flintstones. It just seems to be shown on screen for such a long amount of time that it isn’t even supposed to be hidden. It’s in your face like “we watched these shows. You see? Did you see what we did? Do you get it?” Like it’s super annoying because we already know the characters are super strained from what they are. Why force these to make sure people know you watched or I guess in their case read a Wikipedia article about the source material. I don’t see how these characters can become these Scooby-Doo Where Are You or I guess regular Scooby-Doo (if SDWAY isn’t the way they want to set this up, but it seems they will eventually solve the cases of Red Beard, Big Bob Oakley, and Ghost Clown since they are on the loose and again forced down your throat for you to see) characters by the end of this show without it feeling the most forced possible. They already revealed the culprit in the 6th episode, it doesn’t leave room besides “what happens next”. I don’t want to speak more on the entirety of my gripes without the final 4 episodes. But man it’s hard to sit here and watch these episodes knowing these are the Scooby characters and how crude, toxic, inappropriate, and violent they are and NOT review already. Hard to separate the characters when it feels they WANT you to think these are the Scooby gang who have “flaws” as they say, which is just blatant racism and sexism Mindy Kaling can put out without fear of getting canceled because it’s “Velma” saying these things. When this is just Mindy Kaling’s personality since she’s known for sexual harassment in the work place. And it shows here.
1/26/2023 08:58:54 pm
Yeah, I can absolutely see why you'd be bothered by the Easter Eggs, and I agree with you they're not good references given they're shoved in your face so obviously. Honestly though, I'm just happy to have anything familiar in such a weird show, so I don't really mind I guess. There's enough else bad about the show that the references are the least of my criticisms about the show haha.
1/28/2023 05:48:47 pm
Who do you think the killer is? You said it's so clear that they basically already confirmed it in the episode. I think it's obviously Diya, but just to make sure we're on the same page.
1/27/2023 08:01:56 am
Episode 5 - 8:50, Velma's dead hooray, this abomination is finally over. This episode started okayish then rapidly went downhill. Seriously, should have just left Velma on the museum floor. Ironically, letting Velma die was also the only thing Fred did right in this episode. Me at the end, FUCK, she's still alive, run her over some more. At least the Daphne's parents subplot is interesting and there were some neat cameos, 6/10.
1/27/2023 08:20:56 am
1/27/2023 09:12:20 am
I need to see that Casey Kasem cameo.
1/27/2023 09:28:47 am
The Casey Kasem cameo is nice. He doesn't physically show up, it's just a brief voiceover when Daphne's in the caves that's an ode to his American Top 40 hosting.
1/27/2023 09:53:25 am
I have been awaiting your opinion because we seem to be very in-tune with how we feel about the episodes! I as well agree that episodes 5 and 6 have been the best episodes thus far. For me, I actually really don't like or care for the overall murder mystery plot, it started out as an afterthought and characters also get brutally maimed all the time in this show and then end up fine and minimizing the stakes, and then now we finally are focused on it and I just don't care for it. I think the underground Captain Caveman people idea is stupid, I think that the whole brain science thing is stupid, and I just don't understand why a straightforward murder mystery was out of the question for these writers.
1/27/2023 11:47:21 am
Yeah, we definitely seem to have similar opinions on the episodes so far! I agree the murder mystery plot isn't the greatest, but I'm glad there's at least a bit more of a focus on it now, since that's one of the more likable aspects of the show. The trolling humor of the show definitely makes it pretty hard to take stuff seriously or feel like there's any sort of stakes, though.
1/28/2023 05:39:00 pm
I didn't give much thought to the execution of Aman finally believing Velma's kindapping theory, but now I realize that it was conveyed as pretty shallow and forceful on Velma's part. Tbf, Aman recognizing Diya's handwriting on that piece of paper does show to me that he would've come to that conclusion himself anyway, but Velma's involvement in the matter wasn't handled that well, more so self-centered and rushed.
1/27/2023 04:21:20 pm
These are probably the best episodes of the show so far. I thought episode 5 was the funniest while episode six was the most interesting.
1/27/2023 04:55:35 pm
Agreed, the humor and the mystery definitely improved in these even if they still aren't the greatest.
1/27/2023 07:21:24 pm
I wonder who the killer is.
1/27/2023 10:07:37 pm
Honestly I have no idea at this point. This show seems to have a knack for zany humor, so I could even see them making the culprit someone ridiculous. I hope that's not the route they take, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
1/28/2023 05:17:07 pm
First off, I'm surprised you barely mentioned Norville and Fred at all in the review. Because it's not like they did nothing or weren't significant. While they weren't center stage, they still had important roles to play, ie: their new dynamic with Velma, their new involvement in Velma's search for her mom, and even their own little subplots, and in Norville's case his new relationship with Gigi. That was the one that shocked me the most that you didn't talk about at all — Norville & Gigi. If I can give a piece of advice, I'd say that writing a paragraph dedicated to each of the 4 main characters and your thoughts on them in those specific episodes that are being reviewed would help create a better big picture on your opinion of the show overall. Focusing on the actions of only a couple of characters isn't as thorough or insightful as it could otherwise be.
1/28/2023 05:18:04 pm
I called it in my previous review that the mysterious person in the caves was that big bad criminal, I was right. I suspected he was Daphne's dad before the revelation too. The Captain Caveman suits are more peculiar than anything, and the idea of this criminal gang in the mines and sewers under the city is rather strange (the Casey Kasem Top 40 was a nice reference though). And of course Daphne's parents don't give a shit about her in reality, they're fucking criminals, didn't buy anything between them. How Daphne trusted them is puzzling. Her adoptive moms prove they're good parents and how much they love their daughter and capture Darren and all the criminals (except Carrol, who I'll talk about later) at the right time though, which is cool. It all feels pretty rushed too, it takes less than a whole episode between Daphne finding her parents to Daphne being done and over with them after trying to kill her, especially with all of Daphne's screentime in ep 6 being dedicated to this one storyline. Glad we're completely done with this plotline now honestly, cuz the scenes underground with Daphne and her real parents weren't compelling or interesting to go through. Oh, and I guess that the dad having Brenda's tank top amounted to nothing but a cheap shock revelation to make you think he's the killer for a bit when he's not.
1/28/2023 07:51:57 pm
I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but the marching band sleepover is similar to a scene in Weird Al's new documentary (would highly recommend watching it, it's hilarious) in which he goes to a polka party in high school. Yeah, it's a shame Weird Al is wasted on a random side character that doesn't even show up all that much. The show seems to use the sheriff and mayor imposing weird policies on the town quite a bit as a way to move the plot along, and it definitely feels really lazy. Clearly, that's going to continue, since we see in the preview for next week's episodes that the sheriff makes an announcement that the murderer is a ghost. It's clear the show likes amplifying the gross stuff as a way to assert their edginess. I can honestly envision the conversation in the writers' room when they were coming up with the scene where the sheriff hits Velma with his car. Seems like they were wanting to do a social commentary on police brutality, and they decided to make it as extreme as possible by having the sheriff intentionally plow into Velma with his squad car.
1/29/2023 04:08:23 am
What I wonder now is how Daphne will help with the main plot. She's been detached from it for a good chunk now cuz all her time has been spent on her own quest to find her own parents. But since that storyline is already done and dusted, she has nothing else to do but rejoin the others in the last 4 episodes. Great example of really strange pacing in this show. Daphne's got a lot of catching up to do from the last couple of episodes; Velma, Norville and Fred have all been advancing the main plot and are really involved. What Daphne bring to the table — I really don't know, they haven't set up any new possible threads with her.
1/29/2023 04:27:25 am
I meant I can't even tell if the writers want it to be endgame or over as soon as next episode*
1/29/2023 10:18:47 am
I'll be very interested to see how she'll fit into the main plot too, although I fear it will be somehow tied to the love rectangle thing, since they haven't mentioned Velma's feelings for Daphne in a while now.
1/29/2023 11:59:29 am
From the preview for next episode, I guess Daphne will just jump right back in the interactions and dynamic with the others as if she hadn't missed anything. Knowing this show, they'll probably make it so she learned everything that happened beforehand in ep 5 and 6 off-screen. And I assume we'll finally get a proper scene(s) with all 4 main characters interacting, since they're all at that Fog Dance. Or maybe 5 main characters? Cuz those previews sure don't dispel the speculations that Gigi is their reinterpretation of Scooby, she's with all of them there. And seems like she forgave Norville after the incident from ep 6, as she's having fun with him at the dance in a quick 1 second shot. Why are they even throwing this party/carnival? Cuz the killer is a ghost from what the sheriff says? That sounds pretty stupid. Anyway, seems like we'll finally see some resemblance of a typical Scooby-Doo episode structure, with the monster finally properly showing up to attack the place that the (whole) gang happens to be at, chases ensuing and, y'know, classic Scooby stuff that has been sorely missing so far. Velma's joke at the end of that teaser is terrible though (and basically directly confirming that all these characters that the show has been consistently exploiting sexually from as early as the very first scene of episode 1 are minors).
1/29/2023 04:34:12 pm
Seems like it, yeah. It's crazy to think it took halfway through the show for all four of them to appear together, and they still haven't all had an interaction where they are talking to one another. I'll be interested to see how they explain Gigi forgiving Norville, if they even do (I could see it being another off-screen thing). I think the Fog Fest is supposed to be an annual thing the town does. I looked it up before the show started when the titles were announced, and a real-life city in California named Pacifica holds a Fog Fest every year. https://pacificcoastfogfest.com/ I hope we get a typical episode structure, and the preview seems to hint that we will, since we see that clip of the murderer chasing everyone at the Fog Fest. Yep, her joke at the end is pretty horrible; very on-par with this show, though.
1/29/2023 05:02:32 pm
Me to the SDMI Velma/Shaggy relationship after watching "Velma": *Perhaps I treated you too harshly*
1/29/2023 06:12:33 pm
I'm pretty sure everyone's feeling that way haha. Honestly, I don't think I've seen a single person say that they think this Shaggy/Velma romance is better than the one in SDMI, and given how universally unliked that relationship is, that's saying something.
1/29/2023 08:19:44 am
I just realized I misremembered the scene where the brick wall falls over Fred and Velma. There was no killer costume there at all. I still think it's very likely Diya though.
1/28/2023 07:05:24 pm
These really were the better episodes so far! I hope in the last 4 episodes of this season improve even more! I’m glad they went back to the murder/ missing mom mysteries. I don’t know, it feels like Diya could be the murderer or the other scientist lady, Norville’s grandmother.
1/28/2023 07:22:59 pm
Seems like that's the unanimous opinion! I think it's Diya, but I could honestly see the show trolling us and just having it be a random person that makes no sense. I hope that's not what happens, but with the wackiness of this show, I wouldn't put it past them haha.
1/29/2023 04:33:07 am
I think Norville's grandma is dead by now. They didn't say it upfront, but his mom was only using past tense when talking about her ("she really was a trailblazer").
1/29/2023 09:47:17 am
Actually, Norville's mom does say that her mother is dead when she explains that Jones family bought her house
1/28/2023 07:32:47 pm
1/28/2023 07:55:14 pm
If you want to listen to it you can listen here:
1/28/2023 08:23:30 pm
Oops, I missed the link to the review when I first responded, but I just listened now. Overall her review was okay; I agree with her "on the fence" mindset. So far I'm not loving the show, but I'm holding out a little hope that the show might improve a bit based on these past two episodes being good. I don't think it's quite as black and white as she framed it; at least from what I've seen, a lot of people's criticisms come down to the show not being as well-written as it could be, rather than wanting it to be more like the original Scooby.
1/28/2023 08:13:17 pm
I definitely see what you're saying, and I agree to an extent. For me at least, I think a little part of my liking these episodes more is that I'm used to the fact this show doesn't have the best writing or humor. The complaints about Velma being self-centered with her father not believing her just come down to Velma's character, not necessarily a badly written scene. I agree with your thoughts that people contradict themselves in real-life.
1/29/2023 03:51:13 pm
I think the character development is doing what over the run it should - making the main characters better people and closer to what we're used to. But hey just started by making them too unlikable.
1/29/2023 06:15:08 pm
Yeah, I totally agree with that. Velma did at least have moments of being a better person in this episode, like taking the blame in front of the police in episode 5. Even if it is played up for humor, Fred being a feminist is also a step in the right direction.
1/31/2023 09:09:49 pm
Re Fred the feminist:
2/1/2023 07:58:20 am
Oh yeah, I agree that Fred is definitely growing and developing as a character which is cool to see, especially when his parents have brought him up in such a rigid way. I wish they wouldn't play it up so much for laughs, but it is cool to see his character developing.
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