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Fun Fact of the Week #459

6/26/2023

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A recent copy of a script from "The Warlock of Wimbledon" purchased by a frequent commenter on this blog, ScoobyDooUK, lists the warlock's name as "Amthos," rather than Anthos. It's unknown if this is an early version of the script, or we've actually been getting the name wrong all these years. Either option seems like it could be a possibility, as it's also mentioned in the script that the Devil Hound is black, when the final design used in the episode was a dark brown dog. Thanks to ScoobyDooUK for contributing the fun fact for this week!
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Becker
6/26/2023 11:13:58 am

I'm sure it's a typo, as Anthos is a real Greek word, while Amthos doesn't exist. They also pronounce it with an "n" in the episode.

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ScoobyDooUK
6/26/2023 11:54:05 am

Check out this video at around 2:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbUJAK2EX0w
Definitely not 'Anthos' you can hear the M for sure.

And this one at 1:10, especially in the British accent it's really clearly an M. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaAAhpT8IbU

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ScoobyDooUK
6/26/2023 11:56:07 am

Oh and this one at 3:46, this is the most damning evidence of them all.
https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=QaAAhpT8IbU

WildwindVampire link
6/26/2023 06:21:04 pm

The 3:46 clip I couldn't really tell, but the other two do kinda sound like Amthos. Becker makes a good point about it being a real Greek word, though, so I have no idea. The spelling also could have been from an early draft of the script that was changed later, who knows.

Matt
6/26/2023 09:13:44 pm

Given how uneven the writing in this episode is, I wouldn't be surprised if the writers didn't know if it was Anthos or Amthos either LOL

Becker
6/27/2023 03:16:13 am

Probably because they were reading that draft of the script written by someone who didn't really do their research into how that Greek word is actually spelled. No way am I calling that guy Amthos, that word doesn't even remotely exist and sounds very unnatural.

ScoobyDooUK
6/27/2023 05:59:05 am

Well the words 'Jaguaro', 'Willawaw' etc also don't exist so I don't think that matters. And since the episode is set in England and the Amthos family is supposed to be British I think it's just a coincidence that there's a similar greek word. And the greek word means flower which is the last word you'd use to describe and evil Warlock lol.

WildwindVampire link
6/27/2023 08:35:40 am

@Matt Lol! Maybe two different writers wrote each half of the episode and one of them named him Anthos, and the other named him Amthos haha.

@Becker and ScoobyDooUK I'll honestly probably stick with Anthos as well just because that's what I'm used to calling him, but both sound very similar so I'm not sure if it matters. Still interesting to know there was an early draft of the script that called him that, whether it was a typo or not.

Matt
6/27/2023 11:21:09 am

I’m gonna stick with Anthos as well, if only because Amthos sounds absolutely awful lol

ScoobyDooUK
6/27/2023 06:08:58 am

Infact, here's the perfect example. The word "Williwaw" exists, but they call it the "Willawaw". Almost as if they are purposefully adjusting the real word to make it more unique to the show etc etc.

At the end of the day, it sounds like Amthos to me, it's written in the script that way and TV shows have inaccuracies to real life all the time so I don't think it's a big deal. Or, like the 'Willawaw' they purposefully altered it to be different from the real word.

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Gatherer Hade
6/30/2023 06:01:14 am

There is a similar issue with "Lock The Door, It's the Minotaur".
If you listen the name of the island is "HELOS".and the DVD subtitles agree. But there is no HELOS island in the Mediterranean, but there is a HELIOS island.

You have to wonder if there was some sort of policy of tweaking real words under Joe & Bill.

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WildwindVampire link
6/30/2023 07:26:47 am

That's a really good point. There's also "Katazuma" which doesn't exist, but Montezuma" does exist. I can't imagine there was any copyright issues with using the names, so you're probably right about Joe and Bill having some sort of policy about switching the names.

ScoobyDooUK
6/30/2023 12:12:30 pm

Wow! I didn't know that. That's very interesting. Maybe we are onto something here.

Shadowscooby
6/30/2023 04:09:29 pm

Hey Wildwind, i thought of a fun fact. In the Secret Serum, Daphne threatened the vampire with a wooden steak. Sarah Michelle Gellar played Buffy in Buffy The Vampire Slayer and she played Daphne in the first two live action movies.

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WildwindVampire link
6/30/2023 08:12:28 pm

Thanks for the suggestion! I can add it to the running list I have, but I have quite a few already written, so it may be a bit.

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Gatherer Hade
7/1/2023 07:53:53 pm

Maybe they altered stuff so as not to cause offense at any appropriation.
Another example I can think of is in the DTV Legend of the Vampire.

The Vampire Rock Music Festival concert organiser was Daniel ILLIWARRA.
However, the Australian location derived from Aboriginal words is ILLAWARRA.

Legend was still produced by Barbera even though it was dedicated to Hanna.

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WildwindVampire link
7/1/2023 09:44:44 pm

I never knew about Daniel's last name being altered from an Australian location. Given all the clues, I would say that's probably the most likely option.




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