Happy Easter to all those who are celebrating today! Although all options got votes from last week's poll, there was a gigantic gap between first and second place as expected. Here are the results for last week's poll:
What is your favorite Scooby-Doo episode taking place in a hospital? The Harum Scarum Sanitarium - 50 Attack of the Headless Horror - 6 There Wolf - 5 The Horrible Haunted Hospital of Dr. Phineas Phrag! - 5 Scrappy's Birthday - 3 When the Cicada Calls - 2 American Goth - 2
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3/30/2024 11:12:40 pm
6. Comic Book Caper - even though this is last place, this is actually pretty good for a Scrappy short!
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Mr Neither
3/31/2024 06:18:52 am
6. Mask of the Blue Falcon - A fair Scooby movie but against some stiff competition here I feel it just falls a little short.
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3/31/2024 09:07:27 am
5. Lol!
Matt
3/31/2024 11:56:07 am
2. I am also on board with this. It could’ve been better with more time. It still works for what it is, but yeah, good but could’ve been great in another format
Becker
3/31/2024 12:31:52 pm
5. Lmfao
Mr Neither
3/31/2024 02:19:33 pm
5. In my defence, I am a supermarket worker that has to be up at 4am for work most mornings, cycle to work and then deal with customers. I earn the right to look like that.
Becker
3/31/2024 02:37:49 pm
@Mr Neither, that's a very good defence, doesn't sound fun.
Matt
3/31/2024 12:20:59 am
This is a really solid set. Happy Easter to those who celebrate
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3/31/2024 09:10:30 am
Our lists were super similar this week!
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Matt
3/31/2024 11:36:43 am
3. It’s not as much negative as it is much less positive than I am on it. It is close to a top ten Scooby movie for me
Becker
3/31/2024 12:36:19 pm
@Matt, I'll give it to you that The Scarab Lives is one of the best SD&SD episodes and it's great, but I stand by the fact that I'd take more than hald of TSDS S3 over this episode any day of the week. Weinrib's Scrappy inherently can't get this show's episodes really high.
Becker
3/31/2024 12:39:45 pm
More than half of* 3/31/2024 12:45:08 pm
2. Even though I don't necessarily like the antics heaviness of The Scooby-Doo Show season 3, I feel like there were a lot more classics and memorable episodes here, like "To Switch a Witch," "Who Was That Cat Creature I Saw You With Last Night?", "The Creepy Creature of Vulture's Claw," lately "Scooby's Chinese Fortune Kooky Caper" (which I mentioned in a comment thread a few months back has really grown on me) and "A Menace in Venice." The Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show was more consistent in quality, I don't feel it had as many great, memorable episodes as The Scooby-Doo Show season 3 did, even if there were some lows in that season. A part of it might be that I have more nostalgia in general over The Scooby-Doo Show, since it was among the first Scooby series I watched as a kid, whereas I didn't see Scooby and Scrappy-Doo until a bit later in my childhood. I think the other part for me is the same as what Becker said, I'm just not a huge fan of Weinrib's Scrappy.
Matt
3/31/2024 04:49:53 pm
@Becker- Obviously I strongly disagree, which I’m sure isn’t shocking to you lol. I’d take To Switch a Witch and A Menace in Venice over it definitely. Diabolical Disc Demon is close but I’ll lean towards Scarab. That’s probably it in that season for me
Becker
3/31/2024 05:29:57 pm
@Matt, personally I'll happily take Watch Out! The Willawaw!, A Creepy Tangle in the Bermuda Triangle, To Switch a Witch, The Tar Monster, A Highland Fling with a Monstrous Thing, The Creepy Case of Old Iron Face, Make a Beeline Away from That Feline, The Creepy Creature of Vulture's Claw, The Diabolical Disc Demon, Scooby's Chinese Fortune Kooky Caper and A Menace in Venice, if not even more, over The Scarab Lives (I'm sure the first especially probably gives you a headache, but hey, I really like that episode lol). Had The Scarab Lives not featured Scrappy, it would've been different; but as is, it just can't go higher when a titular character makes you wanna mute the audio every time he talks. And keep in mind this is one of the best SD&SD eps for me, a bit of a yikes for how much the Weinrib Scrappy detracts from the show.
Matt
3/31/2024 07:19:57 pm
I’d take a ham sandwich over Willawaw. I also feel like I would take most episodes of the Scrappy season over Bermuda Triangle. Maybe all of the first 15 episodes of the Scrappy season because I don’t really like Bermuda Triangle much. Also would take quite a few of them over Highland Fling and Iron Face. Other than that, Vulture’s Claw and Fortune Kooky Caper are two of the better season 3 episodes where I might take them over some of the episodes in the Scrappy season, but certainly not The Scarab Lives 3/31/2024 09:18:08 pm
@Matt I thought about "Terror Thy Name Is Zombo," "The Were-Doo of Doo Manor" and "For Letter or Worse" in my top 10 (and I think they have all been in my top 10 at some point or another). Those are all great episodes.
Becker
4/1/2024 02:46:12 am
@Matt, tbf, the truth is that I would've said all of that about TSDS S3 in relation to most Scooby shows and episodes in general. Idk about you, but my ranking of the shows (or at the very least the way I'd group them) influences and dictates most of my placements of episodes of different series against each other. For example, while I think BCSD, APNSD, 13G are pretty great, there are not really many episodes from those shows that I would put above more than a couple of episodes from SDWAY, NSDMo or WNSD. SD&SD falls into the former group, and coupled with the fact that TSDS is above all the latter show and my #1, the results become very skewed in TSDS's favor. If I'm completely biased, i think at least 15 of my favorite 25 episodes of all time would be from TSDS, simply because there's a reason why it's solidly my favorite of all the series – I just enjoy it the most, so it would reflect that bias.
Matt
4/1/2024 01:44:16 pm
I get what you mean and can kinda relate, even if not to the same degree. I would say it is hard for any episode to beat my very favorites of the classic era (with the exception of Simple Plan and the Invisible Madman, I am pretty sure my entire top ten consists of Where Are You, first two seasons of SDS, and maybe some NSDMo), but I can definitely have episodes from other series above a lot of episodes from those series. Like, I would have Night Terrors over several episodes from any of those series. I also do find this Scrappy season a lot easier to compare to SDS season 3 because I do feel like both seasons are relatively similar. I almost feel like they are each other’s best comparison for me considering how much better I view the first two seasons of SDS than either
Becker
4/1/2024 04:38:34 pm
SDMI is a tough series to compare, due to its highly serialized format. I feel like I love the show itself more than I do most of its episodes, simply because it's not the type of show you put on a random episode from to just watch. It's like a holistic experience.
Becker
3/31/2024 12:30:25 pm
Never thought I'd see the day I not only rank a 1979 episode higher than you, but vote for it when you don't lol, given our debates about whether 1978 or 1979 is better.
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Matt
3/31/2024 04:41:58 pm
Well, I still definitely like the episode more than you do lol. I just adore TSTTMCB
Shadowscooby
3/31/2024 04:33:58 am
I’m going for Mask Of The Blue Falcon.
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Carson Maitland - Smith
3/31/2024 05:37:48 am
The Scarab Lives
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Becker
3/31/2024 12:24:10 pm
Interesting how almost all of these happened in the span of a decade, and most surprisingly before comic books and related media became mainstream popular. I would've expected more comic book related episodes and movies in the past 15 years, given we've been living in a superhero prime/boom during this time period. Admittedly, we've had crossovers with existing superheroes and supervillains recently (Brave and the Bold, Guess Who, Happy Halloween, Krypto Too), which don't qualify for this poll, but still, no original ones in so long (as even Mask of the Blue Falcon is kind of a callback movie to an preexisting superhero show).
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Becker
3/31/2024 12:24:43 pm
4) The Schnook Who Took My Comic Book — perhaps a controversial take, but I don't think this is one of the better APNSD episodes. It's a very good episode clearly, but I feel like the humor isn't as zany, constant and out-there as in many other eps, which is the main attraction of this show (the humor we do get is good, which is why I say we needed more). The mystery is laughably easy even by APNSD standards, and the chase song sequence is pretty much nothing. I just think this show has better to offer personally. However, amazing concept and story and monster! Commander Cool and Mellow Mutt are a well remembered and beloved highlight/aspect of this show, and this is the ep that introduced them. Shaggy and Scooby naturally own this episode, but Fred is in his element too. Daphne and Velma are a bit more in the background here, the latter having one of those episodes where she barely says anything in the first half lol. Finally, great usage of Red Herring (especially the interrogation scene with Shaggy); too often he is used as just a one-moment gag, but not here.
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Becker
3/31/2024 12:25:17 pm
2) Scooby in Kwackyland — I debated heavily between this and my #1, but I ultimately to put this at #2, because it's not the type of episode I would seek out very often. It's an experience I have to be in the mood for (tbh that's something you could say for 13 Ghosts in general). Nonetheless, really unique idea and direction, and definitely in the top half of 13 Ghosts imo, love the vibe and style. Such an easy enjoyable ride that you don't even have to think for much lol. The side characters are well done, especially the man, the myth, the legend, Platypus Duck. Demondo's design is fairly bland, but his plan is pretty cool. Scooby is for sure the heart of this episode, he's undeniable the center of it, and he's as great as ever. Bogel and Weerd dressing up and acting like Daphne and Shaggy was hilarious, but it boggles my mind that Vincent wasn't able to tell that they weren't Shaggy and Daphne. He's able to see perfectly fine in all the other episodes, why did he suddenly need glasses to see more than one meter in front him here? Bonus: rare horndog Shaggy moment when he says "That Astrid... zokins, what a fox!" Lmao. 3/31/2024 12:59:08 pm
6. Lol, yeah, I mirror your thoughts on this one 100%. It's a shame it didn't have enough runtime for the plot to be properly executed, but it's a gigantic step up from most of the other shorts.
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Becker
3/31/2024 02:51:37 pm
1. Yup, as I was watching the episode, while I really enjoyed it, I couldn't help but think if this season was just the 4th season of TSDS without Scrappy, it would be great, and every one of these 16 episodes would be elevated (well.. maybe not necessarily the last one lol). Would still be the weakest TSDS season imo, but the gap would be significantly shrinked. 3/31/2024 09:21:15 pm
Although Scrappy doesn't bother me quite as much as you, I completely agree with you here.
Matt
3/31/2024 04:58:30 pm
4. I absolutely love the interrogation scene and Red Herring’s usage in it lol
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Becker
3/31/2024 05:16:49 pm
When one of the main characters, namely one of the 3 with the most screentime, is annoying and irritating half the time, it detracts a lot from the enjoyment. Scrappy is simply not written well in this show (so automatically the writing of this show isn't as strong as you sometimes make it out to be imho), so I'll never be able to look at it and think "yeah, this is the best version of what this episode could be!". If a main character of a show is a turn-off, I think it is a bit of a dealbreaker (and it clearly is for all the people who keep bashing Scrappy unfortunately). I can't just tune him out whenever he's on-screen, I gotta sit through that over-the-top voice delivering that over-the-top dialogue in an over-the-top performance almost every minute of every episode. That inherently for me makes no episode pretty strong overall, it's more like "pretty strong bar Scrappy" in the case of The Scarab Lives for example. However, despite all of what I've said, I still believe I'm one of the most lenient and forgiving people out there when it comes to this season, given the huge number of folks who despise it purely because of Scrappy, tarnishing it all for them and overpowering every other aspect of the show.
Matt
3/31/2024 07:07:23 pm
If you can’t enjoy the mystery, atmosphere, or plot of an episode solely because of Scrappy dragging it down, then I definitely would not say you are very forgiving on the subject. Which is fair, you are entitled to your opinion, but I do feel that there are more people who at least like the season more than you do than you might think, at least from my experience. At least with people who know the season because let’s be real, for most people, this season would be deep cuts, the episodes aren’t very well known 3/31/2024 09:11:14 pm
For me at least, the issues I have with Weinrib's Scrappy are kind of similar to how I feel about the antics in The Scooby-Doo Show season 3. Like Becker pointed out, there's a lot of emphasis on Scrappy causing trouble for Shaggy and Scooby, which like the antics-heaviness of The Scooby-Doo Show season 3, is something I've never really loved about this season. It isn't a dealbreaker for me and I don't feel it overpowers the episodes like Becker does, but it makes the episodes feel a bit less strong than anything from The Scooby-Doo Show for me. Even though I didn't love the additional focus on the antics in season 3, Shaggy and Scooby are more enjoyable characters than Weinrib's Scrappy, which is what gives TSDS season 3 the edge for me (well, that and nostalgia).
Becker
4/1/2024 02:32:42 am
@Matt, I do enjoy the mystery, atmosphere and plot of the episode despite Scrappy though. I said in my ranking that the atmosphere and plot are great, and although the mystery was pretty easy, at least there is a proper mystery to follow and is a good ride that still keeps you engaged and the clues and motivations were neat (the heist spree aspect of the episode is one of the biggest things that makes it stand out imo).
Becker
4/1/2024 03:01:04 am
@Wildwind, I've noticed more people speak favorably about '84-'88 than the Scrappy stuff prior to that. I haven't really seen many people discuss 1979. The biggest defenders I've come across are Matt and Billiam (youtuber), who discussed everything Scooby.
Becker
4/1/2024 03:30:15 am
Weakest part of the episodes* 4/1/2024 07:56:19 am
I haven't checked out Billiam but yeah, more people seem to defend the later Scrappy stuff than the 1979 content. I can think of a few other defenders, including Billy and Amelia from the Scooby Dos or Don'ts podcast and a few other folks that are more on the social media side of the fandom, but agreed it seems more common for people to like the post-1983 stuff when he's more toned down.
Matt
4/1/2024 01:30:35 pm
@Becker- I get what you mean now. I think the way I read your last comment made your opinion on the show sound way harsher than it actually appears to be lol
Becker
4/1/2024 04:33:15 pm
Most people seem to hearken back to 1979-1982 when they're being negative on Scrappy as a character. Those are the most common references to this time period.
Juan
4/1/2024 03:44:30 am
I've got two words for you.
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