Weekly Poll #139

7/24/2022

Thanks to Shadowscooby for coming up with this poll idea! I limited it to Justice League superheroes just so we weren't getting into all the superheroes like Commander Cool that are exclusive to this franchise.

The theme song for What's New Scooby-Doo knocked it out of the park for last week's poll, getting a total of 53 votes. However, 13 people said they'd do anything to ensure "I'd Do Anything" got their vote. "You Don't Mean Anything" tied for second place, also getting 13 votes. On the other hand, "The Worst Day Ever" had...well, the worst day ever, given not a single person voted for it.

71 Comments

Becker

7/24/2022 09:59:11 am

The Dynamic Scooby-Doo Affair for me. There's not much in it between that one and The Caped Crusader Caper, but I give the edge to the former.
I will give a shout out to Scooby-Doo and Batman: The Brave and the Bold, as well as the crossover Batman's Strangest Cases. They're quite underappreciated and not talked about much, but they're actually quite good.

Becker

7/24/2022 10:01:38 am

You could also say You Don't Mean Anything actually did mean something to 13 voters. Terribly corny joke, I know, lol.

WildwindVampire link

7/24/2022 05:37:19 pm

Damn, I was trying to think for a joke for that episode this morning like I did with "I'd Do Anything" but I couldn't think of anything on the spot. I really like yours though haha.

WildwindVampire link

7/24/2022 05:17:52 pm

I agree those are super underrated! I really liked both of those and wish they were talked about more.

Matt

7/24/2022 10:56:34 am

I started Brave and the Bold but never finished it, so I can’t fairly rank it, and I also haven’t seen the Bat Mite thing

3. Scooby of a Thousand Faces, What a Night for a Dark Knight, One Minute Mysteries (TIE)- I just don’t really like this series. A few highlights, but it is time for that confession overall

2. Caped Crusader Caper- A HUGE jump from those last ones. This one is a fun adventure episode, and is a nice predecessor to those Dynomutt episodes with Scooby like What Now Lowbrow or Everybody Hyde

1. Dynamic Scooby Doo Affair- Easy. Talk about an episode that takes advantage of its runtime by filling it up with a complex and fascinating mystery. An all time great

Becker

7/24/2022 11:07:23 am

You should check out those 2 things! Definitely better than the Guess Who episodes imo.

7) Scooby of a Thousand Faces
6) One Minute Mysteries
5) What a Night for a Dark Knight
4) Batman's Strangest Cases
3) The Brave and the Bold
2) The Caped Crusader Caper
1) The Dynamic Scooby-Doo Affair

WildwindVampire link

7/24/2022 05:42:36 pm

I would also highly recommend checking those two things out! I agree with Becker that they're great and super underrated!

WildwindVampire link

7/24/2022 05:24:45 pm

7. What a Night, for a Dark Knight! - I wanted to like it more, and there were elements I liked, but Scooby felt really off in this episode to me. Particularly the scene where he's freaking out about his cell phone.

6. The Scooby of a Thousand Faces! - unlike a lot of people, I enjoyed Wonder Woman here and liked the episode overall. It was pretty average though, and I enjoyed my top 5 much more.

5. Batman's Strangest Cases - really fun 7-minute episode. It had a very nostalgic New Scooby-Doo Movies feel to it, and I liked how Joker and Penguin appeared again. The "Bat Tips" (or whatever it was called, it's been a bit since I've seen this) thing that Batman did in the middle was super funny. Weird Al's inclusion was authentically, well, weird lol, but it was a ton of fun. I liked how quirky and experimental this episode was.

4. The Brave and the Bold - Such a solid unrated film. I liked how so many of the Batman villains showed up, and the gang trying to solve Batman's solved case that haunted him was a great premise.

3. One Minute Mysteries! - bit of an unpopular opinion here, but this was one of my favorite Guess Who episodes. It was a super unique premise to have The Flash stopping the gang from solving their mysteries, and this was one occasion where I didn't mind the classic villains showing up. It worked well. I liked the second half as well with the Giant Teddy Bear.

2. The Caped Crusader Caper - super tough to pick between these last two, because I really enjoyed this one. All the hijinks in the forest, factory and caves were lots of fun. Joker and Penguin served as great villains here. Professor Flakey was amusing haha.

1. The Dynamic Scooby-Doo Affair - The mystery here was so complex and fun, but I loved it. I liked how Joker and Penguin showed up as side villains, and the main villain was also really good despite having a simple costume. I mentioned this in another recent poll, but that "take 'em away boys" scene where Joker and Penguin take the cops away still makes me laugh. The cops just look so jolly and happy-go-lucky as they're being arrested lol.

Becker

7/25/2022 03:31:44 am

I know you meant to say "underrated" in regards to Brave and the Bold, but I can't help but imagine what an unrated film with the Scooby gang and Batman would look like lmao.

WildwindVampire link

7/25/2022 08:28:00 am

"Unrated" lol. I definitely meant to say "underrated" haha.

Shadowscooby

7/24/2022 11:14:46 am

I’m going for Scooby Doo Batman The Brave and The Bold. I loved watching Batman The Brave and The Bold series. Seeing it crossover with Scooby Doo was nice.

WildwindVampire link

7/24/2022 05:25:42 pm

I never watched Batman: The Brave and the Bold, but it was still awesome getting a full-length movie with that version of Batman after we got "Batman's Strangest Cases" in 2011.

Shadowscooby

7/24/2022 01:13:16 pm

Bat Mite: Batman’s Strangest Cases:
I liked this crossover. It was so refreshing to see them team with Batman and Robin and facing Joker and Penguin again just like they did in NSDM. This crossover even contained a laugh track.

The usher looks just like Pietro from The Backstage Rage. The Footlight phantom looks like the Hooded man from The Dynamic Scooby Doo Affair. Joker and Penguin dressing up in their Dryad and Troll costumes was a nice reference. It was also cool seeing costumes of Black Knight, Ghost of Captain Cutler, Ghost Clown and Ghost of Redbeard. I enjoyed the fight scene of Batman, Robin, Joker, Penguin, Shaggy and Scooby.

Weird Al Yankovic made a guest appearance. That’s the first time I’ve actually heard of him. Fred, Daphne, Velma, Shaggy and Scooby dance just like they did in Jeepers It’s The Creeper.

WildwindVampire link

7/24/2022 05:27:10 pm

This was such a fun, silly crossover with a classic feel. I liked all the references to the classic New Scooby-Doo Movies episodes and Where Are You. I mentioned it above, but that "Bat Tips" scene was really funny. Weird Al was a great guest star, even if he only appeared for a minute.

Jacob Staggs

7/24/2022 01:47:10 pm

I haven't seen the Bat-mite one.
6) The Brave and the Bold - It just seemed intrinsically opposed to what Scooby Doo is.
5) What a Night for a Dark Knight - It exists.
4) One Minute Mysteries - It was about 1 minute too long. I liked that the flash was voiced by the guy who voiced the sorcerer on Tom and Jerry The Magic Ring.
3) Dynamic Scooby Affair - Not that dynamic and I don't recall anyone having an affair.
2) Caped Crusader Caper - My 2nd favorite episode of The NSDMo. Uproariously rude Fred and that riot Professor Flakey take the cake. I like how they completely dismissed Shaggy when he thought Joker and Penguin could be hiding in the cave. Turns out, he was right.
1) Scooby of a Thousand Faces - Easily the best episode of Scooby Doo and Guess Who? There is a real dynamic between Scooby and Wonder Woman. The Minotaur is a cool villain. My favorite Scooby Doo episode post Get a Clue. Wonder Woman and Daphne have great chemistry. Velma is extra well drawn in this episode. Wonder Woman and Scooby are a great duo and just to be clear Wonder Woman and Scooby are a great duo. If you look up the term great duos in the dictionary, one of its many definitions would be Scooby and Wonder Woman.
And furthermore.....

WildwindVampire link

7/24/2022 05:36:16 pm

Yeah, I kind of agree with you on "What a Night, for a Dark Knight!" I know a lot of people enjoyed it, but I felt Scooby's character was really off, and the crossover felt a bit lackluster compared to the other five we got.

Fred is definitely at one of his rudest moments in "The Caped Crusader Caper" haha.

Good to see some appreciation for "Scooby of a Thousand Faces!" I agree Wonder Woman, Daphne, and Scooby have a great dynamic, and the minotaur fits great as a villain. That's amazing it's your favorite episode since Get a Clue, wow!

Also, lol at "Not that dynamic and I don't recall anyone having an affair."

Becker

7/25/2022 03:34:15 am

At this point we're getting used to the weird Fred in that season lol

Matt

7/24/2022 07:38:26 pm

I certainly would say Dynamic Scooby Doo Affair is dynamic

The Merriam Webster definition if dynamic is:

“marked by usually continuous and productive activity or change”

And given how many different places they go, it certainly is continuously changing LOL

All jokes aside, that comment about not recalling an affair is hilarious LMAO

Matt

7/24/2022 07:39:56 pm

And I also appreciate the Sassy Fred shoutout

Jakob123

7/24/2022 05:39:45 pm

The Dynamic Scooby-Doo Affair (Good)

The Caped Crusader Caper (Good)

The Scooby of a Thousand Faces! (Great)

What a Night, for a Dark Knight! (Great)

One Minute Mysteries! (Great)

Scooby-Doo and Batman: The Brave and the Bold (Great)

Bat-Mite Presents: Batman's Strangest Cases (Weird but still good)

WildwindVampire link

7/24/2022 05:41:50 pm

Nice rankings!

Mr Neither

7/24/2022 06:42:58 pm

Dynamic Scooby Doo Affair - 10
Caped Crusader Caper - 8
What a Knight for a Dark Knight - 8
One Minute Mysteries - 4
Scooby bat mite: ???
Scooby brave: 8

Some solid episodes here (I forgot nothing)

WildwindVampire link

7/24/2022 08:11:45 pm

Dynamic Scooby-Doo Affair - 10/10
The Caped Crusader Caper - 9/10
One-Minute Mysteries! - 8/10
Brave and the Bold - 7/10
Batman's Strangest Cases - 7/10
Scooby of a Thousand Faces! - 7/10
What a Night, for a Dark Knight! - 5/10

Also lol about the "I forgot nothing" comment.

Mr Neither

7/25/2022 09:54:49 am

Why don't you like What a night for a Dark Knight, I felt the mystery was quite decent.

WildwindVampire link

7/25/2022 01:21:39 pm

I mentioned it in a different comment somewhere on this thread, but I thought Scooby's personality was really off in this. Scooby freaking out about his cell phone (or for that matter, having one in the first place) and speaking in paragraphs just didn't sit right with me. It just came off really cringey to me.

Mr Neither

7/26/2022 10:57:09 am

I'm sorry to say this but if you're going to knock marks of for that surely 1000 faces has to be in the same league after that stupid long arse winded speech of Scooby's that was so out of character.

WildwindVampire link

7/26/2022 11:13:29 am

Tbh, I haven't seen either of the episodes since they came out so I didn't remember Scooby's long monologue. I reread my reviews for those episodes, and I remember the scene now. I definitely didn't enjoy that part. Scooby's "boys locker room, girls locker room" comment was also cringey. I wasn't as bothered by the gender aspect as you were, but that line was out-of-place and unnecessary.

However, looking at my review, it looks like "What a Night, for a Dark Knight!" was above "Scooby of a Thousand Faces" in my final ranking, so maybe I am retroactively being harsher on the episode. I haven't seen either episode since they came out, so I don't think my rankings would have changed. What bothered me about "What a Night, for a Dark Knight" was mainly Scooby throwing a tantrum over his cell phone. It's weird to think of him having a cell phone in the first place, and having him be so obsessed with it is really strange and out-of-character. I guess given it seems I'm not remembering "Scooby of a Thousand Faces!" as well as I thought I did, I'd switch my rankings as follows:

What a Night, for a Dark Knight! - 5/10
Scooby of a Thousand Faces! - 4/10

Becker

7/26/2022 02:54:29 pm

@Wildwind, as someone who's made it very clear multiple times that Guess Who really just ain't good, I still feel like one single scene in What a Night for a Dark Knight bringing down the whole episode to a 5/10 is maybe a bit too much. I mean yeah, that one scene was really garbage, but the rest of it was decently enjoyable. I honestly thought it was easily one of the better episodes of Guess Who.
Meanwhile Scooby of a Thousand Faces is just... no. I don't despise it quite as much as Mr Neither, but there's so much weird crap in that episode (which he has already mentioned in these comments) and on top of all that it's also really damn boring and forgettable. The only things you even remotely remember about it are all the bad moments/elements sprinkled throughout. One of the worst of the series.

WildwindVampire link

7/26/2022 04:22:01 pm

Tbh, I had a hard time ranking the Guess Who episodes because they are just so forgettable. Initially I was more ranking them in terms of how I feel about them in terms of the general quality of the series (i.e. "What a Night, for a Dark Knight" feels just okay compared to many other episodes). I changed them in hindsight because I didn't think "Scooby of a Thousand Faces" deserved the same 7/10 ranking as Bat-Mite Presents: Batman's Strangest Cases, because I like the latter far more than the former. However, just looking at Guess Who, it's a decent episode considering the general quality of that series, but in pales in comparison to some classics like "The Caped Crusader Caper" and "The Dynamic Scooby-Doo Affair," and even Brave and the Bold/Batman's Strangest Cases.

Sorry about the confusing rankings, was more just a combination of me not remembering the bad elements of "Scooby of a Thousand Faces!" since it's so forgettable, and realizing in retrospect that it didn't deserve to be on the same level as stuff like Brave and the Bold/Batman's Strangest Cases. I also was thinking the Scooby phone stuff was more than just the one scene, but you're probably right.

TL;DR: A good chunk of the Guess Who episodes are pretty forgettable and I misremembered the quality of some of them. I re-read my full reviews for the episodes from 2019, and I guess I'd say I'd bump up Brave and the Bold and Strangest Cases to 8/10, whereas "What a Night, for a Dark Knight!" gets a 7/10 and "Scooby of a Thousand Faces!" can get a 6/10.

Becker

7/26/2022 05:03:49 pm

Thanks for clearing up the confusion, I know it gets tough trying to remember all the details and exact rankings and ratings.

Mr Neither

7/27/2022 04:38:21 am

To be fair, I do need to rewatch these episodes at some point or forget they exist, probably the latter.

Jacob Staggs

7/27/2022 10:34:14 am

I give Scooby of a Thousand Faces a 9/10. I give What a Night for a Dark Knight a 3/10. Why?
I'll tell you why.
Despite Scooby giving a speech in Thousand Faces, I found every other element to be exceptionally good in that episode.
With Dark Knight, not only was Scooby out of character but this occurs within a very lackluster episode where there is very little of interest. I would have preferred "Gentlemanly Batman" here.

Matt

7/27/2022 05:22:10 pm

@Wildwind, I completely agree that the episodes in this series are just so *forgettable* to me. I really just do not like the series as sorry as I was to admit it up there and it is largely because of that. And it is why I can never actually rank the episodes

WildwindVampire link

7/27/2022 09:17:04 pm

"To be fair, I do need to rewatch these episodes at some point or forget they exist, probably the latter." Mr. Neither channeling that Sassy Fred energy today lol.

@Jacob Staggs I agree that Gentlemanly Batman would have been a lot more fun in "What a Night, for a Dark Knight!"

@Matt I wouldn't go as far to as to say I don't like it, because there are some episodes I find good, but overall the series just plays it too safe in a lot of episodes IMO.

Becker

7/28/2022 03:13:35 am

Crying over a broken phone? Scooby oughta be ashamed of himself!

There's a bit of Sassy Fred in all of us

WildwindVampire link

7/28/2022 09:18:15 am

Ha!

Becker

7/25/2022 03:36:18 am

Oh yeah I remember you really not liking Thousand Faces at all

Mr Neither

7/25/2022 09:53:17 am

It's a modern day, politics gone mad, sexist pile of crap with an overused villain. What is there to love?

Carson Maitland - Smith link

7/24/2022 07:33:18 pm

All of them

Jayden

7/25/2022 03:19:57 am

1. The Dynamic Scooby Affair
2. Scooby Doo and Batman: The Brave and the Bold
3. The Caped Crusader Caper
4. What a night for a dark knight
5. One minute Mysteries
6. Scooby of a thousand faces
I don't know what Bat-Mite Presents: Batman's Strangest Cases is.
Okay so for number 1. Good episode in TNSDM (The new scooby doo movies)
2. Good film definitely in top 10 for me in all Scooby films
3. A very weak episode in TNSDM but it's better than SDAGW (Scooby doo and Guess who)
4. A good SDAGW episode but the others are classics
5. Decent SDAGW episode and the concept was cool
6. I didn't like this episode.

Becker

7/25/2022 03:40:27 am

Bat-Mite Presents was a segment from the Batman: The Brave and the Bold show with the Scooby gang and Batman and Robin in the classic style from the NSDMo days. Kinda similar to how they did a Johnny Bravo with the Scooby gang guest starring.

Becker

7/25/2022 03:40:50 am

A Johnny Bravo episode*

WildwindVampire link

7/25/2022 08:26:47 am

Nice list! If you're able to find a way to watch "Bat-Mite Presents: Batman's Strangest Cases," I'd definitely recommend doing so! It's very similar to the old New Scooby-Doo Movies episodes that Batman guest starred in.

Jayden

7/29/2022 03:56:46 am

Oh boy! I'm really interested now. Do you know anywhere I can find it? Also, where can I find the Johnny Bravo episode? I've never seen it

Jayden

7/29/2022 03:59:10 am

Okay so I researched it and I want to know exactly bc I'm kinda confused. So this is a series which features only one episode that is related to Scooby Doo in any way?

Jayden

7/29/2022 04:18:28 am

Okay so I have watched the Batman episode. For one, it seems alot more like Scooby Doo and Guess Who rather than The New Scooby Doo movies. It takes 11 minutes of weirdness to get to the actual Scooby part and it was just weird. I personally hate when they try doing something different but it wasn't really a Scooby episode as it wasn't in the Scooby series. I would have put this at the bottom of my list.

WildwindVampire link

7/30/2022 08:46:14 am

Yeah, Batman: The Brave and the Bold doesn't feature any other Scooby episodes other than that 7 minute one. And sorry yeah, there were three different segments in that episode, but only the last one had Scooby in it. I wasn't including either of the other two segments in this poll, but the segments don't really have a name so I just titled it what the episode was called.

Greybishop

7/26/2022 03:12:20 am

Voted for What a Night. Kevin Conroy as Batman wins ANY list he's on, period.

I can never remember which New Scooby-Doo Movie has the infamous "pantsless Batman" scene, but whichever one it is, it's a close second.

All that said, I absolutely love ALL the DC superhero crossovers. For all the modern "movies and tv finally take superheroes seriously" progress the genre has made in the last decade or two, it's always fun to see these characters showcased in a lighter tone. I grew up with NOTHING BUT silly superheroes on tv, when they could be found at all, so it's nostalgically trippy to see that spirit brought forward to today.

WildwindVampire link

7/26/2022 10:40:17 am

I forgot about the "pantsless Batman scene" lol. That was from "The Caped Crusader Caper." Yeah, I agree that it's really nice to see some of the more gritty superheroes done in a lighter tone. "Gentlemanly Batman" from The New Scooby-Doo Movies is so much fun haha.

Shadowscooby

7/26/2022 05:44:42 am

Scooby Doo and Batman The Brave and The Bold:

I loved this movie. I liked that the opening was a mixture of the NSDM theme song and the Batman The Brave and The Bold theme song. Seeing Martian Manhunter and Detective Chimp as the Phantom Puppeteer and Puppet was a surprise as it was a test for them and Batman to see if the gang was right for the Mystery Analysts of Gotham.

It was cool seeing the other superheros from the series: Aquaman, The Question, Black Canary, Plastic Man. All the superhero’s were great guest stars and blended in well with the gang. Martian Manhunter taking all the cookies haha. Aquaman pretending to be a different superhero haha. Plastic Man did a lot of goofy stuff too.

I liked that the plot was centered on Batman’s unsolved case and everyone trying to figure what it was. It was unfortunate that he could save both of them. The mystery itself was pretty intriguing.

The Crimson Cloak was a spooky and creepy villain. How he kept whispering Batman’s name was pretty eerie. He also had a really cool design.

It was a nice that they mentioned the malt shop and that the malt shop actually appeared in the movie. That was a cool reference.

It was cool that Arkham Asylum was put into this film and we got to see various Batman villains. I liked the chase scene in Arkham. The gang are running from the villains while Batman defeats them.

The subplot of them being framed was nice addition. It’s also pretty relatable between them. The gang has been framed before in the franchise. Batman was framed for a crime from the Brave and the bold series.

It was also ridiculous that the other hero’s didn’t side with them. They were with Batman and the gang earlier and saw the Crimson Cloak. They could have vouched for them.

Seeing the Joker and Penguin team up again felt like a callback to NSDM. Them going to the Batcave also felt like a callback to NSDM.

It was so cool seeing the gang in the old super hero costumes. Fred I’m Batman’s Original suit, Daphnes as Batgirl, Velma as Robin, Shaggy as Nightwing, and Scooby as Ace The Bathound.

I guess I should’ve known that Clayface was the Crimson Cloak after I saw him shapeshifting. He just wanted to get a cure but was fooled. Another surprise was The Riddler at Arkham was a Clayface disguise. The Riddler was actually the question now that was a surprise. It was cool that the Question came in and punched the Riddler.

It was heartwarming that he saved Leo Scarlett and that he reunited with his father Professor Scarlett and Batman’s unsolved case is finally solved thanks to the gang and his superhero friends.

Batman giving Scooby a Scooby Snack and Shaggy ate it. That’s a mother call back to NSDM. The security guard at Arkham also looks and sounds like Don Knotts.

Over all very good movie. It was very fun to watch and cool seeing Batman The Brave and The Bold again.

WildwindVampire link

7/26/2022 11:02:36 am

This was a great movie! I also really appreciated how combined the intros of The New Scooby-Doo Movies and Batman: The Brave and the Bold. It was fun seeing all the Batman characters and all the classic DC superheroes like Aquaman and Black Canary. I liked the premise of the gang being tested to see if they were right for the Mystery Analyst Group.

I really liked how it was centered around Batman's unsolved case too. It made the stakes feel a lot higher, and it was a really interesting plot. The Crimson Cloak was really creepy with his whispering. The scene in Arkham Asylum was great, and that subplot of being framed made the plot even more complex.

I liked that Joker and Penguin teamed up like they did in The New Scooby-Doo Movies, and it was fun to see the Batcave again. I liked seeing the gang in superhero costumes too. It was cool they made the culprit a Batman villain.

I liked how that security guard sounded like Don Knotts haha. The ending of Leo Scarlett being reunited with his father was so sweet. I loved this film and I'm glad they made it. This was such a well-written film and it's one of my favorite recent crossovers.

Shadowscooby

7/26/2022 05:45:36 am

The Scooby of A Thousand Faces:
This was a cute and enjoyable episode. Wonder Woman was a good guest star and the use of feminism in this episode was good as well as the moments of female power.

It was funny that Wonder Woman tried to kill the Minotaur and the gang having to stop her saying that he’s just a guy in a mask. I liked that she used the lasso of truth on Shaggy and Scooby and they said their ridiculous truths.

I completely understand that Wonder Woman wouldn’t let the boys train with her and Daphne and Velma because her mother wouldn’t allow it and she is respecting her mother wishes and on her home planet it is forbidden. In the end, it was nice that they all worked together to defeat the Minotaur. I also liked their warrior outfits.

I liked the Minotaur as a villain but there were better ones compared to this one but he was still good. The interactions between Scooby Doo and Wonder Woman were super cute.

WildwindVampire link

7/26/2022 10:42:54 am

I agree that this was a great episode! I liked the minotaur as a villain, and yeah, Shaggy and Scooby's truths were ridiculous. Scooby and Wonder Woman had some great chemistry, as did Wonder Woman and the girls.

Becker

7/26/2022 02:56:48 pm

Is it actually a great episode? You just gave it a 4/10. Even a 7 wouldn't mean great

WildwindVampire link

7/26/2022 04:25:59 pm

I explained it a bit above, but I more meant that it's decent for Guess Who quality, I guess. I didn't have the same problems with it as others, although there were some cringey lines that brought it down from other episodes. There were definitely episodes of Guess Who that were far worse than this, but I don't really have any problem with this one that I can remember other than the dumb "boys locker room, girls locker room!" comment of Scooby's, Scooby's overly long monologue, and I guess the fact that it's middle of the road and not particularly memorable for Guess Who. I can't fault it overly much for not being memorable though, as only my top 15-20 of the series are memorable.

WildwindVampire link

7/26/2022 04:26:52 pm

I also probably should have said "good" rather than "great" as there are much better episodes than this one, but I don't have any serious issues with it beyond what I mentioned.

Becker

7/26/2022 05:02:09 pm

It's wild for me to think there's perhaps more memorable BAD moments from Scooby than there are good ones in this series. Like... just... wow. How Guess Who managed to make Scooby probably the worst main member of this show is beyond me.

WildwindVampire link

7/26/2022 05:08:05 pm

Guess Who somehow has more in-your-face bad moments/episodes than any other series, I would say. Some of the bad episodes like "A Mystery Solving Gang Divided!" and "Ollie Ollie In-come Free!" are almost intolerable to me (although the former is worse than the latter).

Becker

7/26/2022 05:46:39 pm

I'd much rather watch Get a Clue honestly. I've never been a hater of GAC, but I never thought of it being great or anywhere near upper half of Scooby shows either. But I give it mad props for doing something COMPLETELY different from everything we've ever seen in Scooby and going full force for it (while keeping Shaggy and Scooby's characteristics intact and entertaining may I add, important point), and not taking the laziest approach and doing the most by-the-books version of Scooby like Guess Who. I was always fine with Get a Clue, but the more time passes the more I like it, even if not by a huge amount. I'd love to see Dr Phineus Phibes back for a DTV in continuity with the GAC show for the fun of it.

WildwindVampire link

7/26/2022 06:43:02 pm

I completely agree with you and I'm glad to meet a fellow appreciator of Get a Clue. Honestly, even though the series is nothing like any other Scooby series, I love that it took the franchise in a completely different direction and experimented with different elements of the franchise. The characterization was really decent too. All of the characters were quite well-developed and none of them felt bland or like their lines were interchangeable like some of Fred, Velma and Daphne's did with Guess Who in certain episodes. I also find the comedy quite humorous, especially in some of those last few episodes like "Runaway Robi" and "Uncle Albert Alert." I get it isn't for everybody, but Get a Clue gets too much hate IMO.

Becker

7/27/2022 04:00:23 am

Shags to Riches as a pilot does exactly the job it needs to do, it gives everything to expect from this show and depending on how much you like the pilot that's how much you will like the show, accurate representation.

WildwindVampire link

7/27/2022 09:14:40 pm

Totally agreed, it does such a great job introducing the show and giving you a sense for what it will be like all throughout. Even if you hate Get a Clue, I think it's pretty hard to argue that the tone of the series wasn't consistent all throughout.

Becker

7/28/2022 03:39:23 am

I'll also say that Scott Menville's Shaggy voice is another one of the many reasons people don't like GAC. I said on the voice actors rankings that I don't mind his version (as long as it's only for this specific iteration), but I've seen many trash his portrayal. They took a risk and it didn't pay off much, so maybe they should've played it more safe with something so important. Like, instead of Menville they perhaps should've brought Innes to play Shaggy. Innes during the 2000s was very much the back-up for Scooby and Shaggy, mostly in PC/DVD/video games and a lot of commercials, so it would've been most logical to get him for this series, if part of the reason we got Menville is probably cuz Kasem was getting too old and ill. Plus, if Innes is already there as Shaggy, you could also have him play Scooby at the same time, like with almost everything else he was in. I don't work in the industry obviously, but I assume getting one voice actor to play the 2 protagonists of the show is more costly efficient than having two voice actors.

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7/28/2022 09:29:13 am

I don't have any issue with Scott Menville's Shaggy voice personally. There are definitely better voices (obviously Kasem, Lillard, Innes, and West) but I thought it fit well with Shaggy's personality for the series. I'm personally fine with him voicing Shaggy for this series, but I agree it probably would have caused less backlash if they got Innes.

Matt

7/29/2022 12:11:18 pm

I feel like I need to give Get A Clue another chance, but I just found it very tedious every other time I watched it

With that being said, I respect it more than Guess Who tbh. It was at least a fresh idea? Guess Who is almost so formulaic and so lackluster that it seems cynical

Becker

7/29/2022 04:49:57 pm

@Matt, I think it's best to go into it not thinking of it as a Scooby show, more just a clean slate. Obviously that's not 100% feasible cuz Scooby and Shaggy are there, but still. It's not amazing by any means, but it's a fun time when you get used to it.

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7/30/2022 08:43:20 am

I also tried to go into the show with the same mindset as Becker. If you go in with the mindset that it's going to be like a regular Scooby show, I think it would be very hard to enjoy the show. It takes a bit of time to get used to, but it's a ton of fun once you do (in my opinion).

Shadowscooby

7/26/2022 05:46:11 am

What A Knight For A Dark Knight:
This episode was quite good. Batman was a good guest star. It’s pretty funny that he’s so serious and he was played up for comedy in this episode. The scene were Fred kept pushing the button while Batman was trying to take off his costume and then repeatingly using his batarangs to close it haha. Batman keep cornering Shaggy and Scooby as they try to run away from him haha. Batman trying to hang up the phone with Velma and she saying that she’s still here and told him to take off his glove to hang up haha.

There were some callbacks to Scooby Doo Where Are You. The title What A Knight For A Dark Knight is based of What A Night For A Knight. Shaggy and Scooby crawling in this episode just like they did in What A Night For A Knight. Fred being pulled into a wall is a call back to him falling through the wall in Never Ape An Ape Man and Scooby Doo bouncing in the air and beating on the Man Bat and knocking him down is just like he did with the Apeman in the same episode.

They did put a lot of Batman elements in the episode. We get to see Alfred Pennyworth. We see Batman’s alter ego Bruce Wayne. We get to see the Batmobile. The main villain was Man Bat ( I liked him as a villain). We see Arkham Asylum and Batman Villains, Scar Face and Puppeteer, Poison Ivy, Kirk Langstrom ( The real Man Bat). The Joker was the actual culprit and dressed up as the fake man bat. Kevin Conroy reprises his role as Batman from the animated series. Shaggy has referred Batman as The Batman twice in the title card and in the episode and all of them in unison said The Batman. That’s a call back to The Batman tv series.

Daphne being related to Alfred Pennyworth is kind of a call back to BCSD. Him be her sort of butler/family friend/substitute polo player/uncle was kind of a reminder of quirky Daphne. Not to mention in Some Fred Time she had a family butler named Bellington who kind of looks like Alfred.

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7/26/2022 10:52:30 am

This was a decent enough episode and I liked the aspects of comedy in this episode. The hanging up the phone scene was funny. I enjoyed all the Where Are You callbacks and the Batman elements. I liked how we got to see the Joker again too. I always thought it was odd that Velma says she was shocked Daphne had an uncle, when they met Uncle Maxwell in "Never Ape an Ape Man."

The one aspect of this episode I didn't like was Scooby's characterization. Seeing him obsessed with his phone was strange, and I didn't like how they made him throw a tantrum when his phone broke.

Shadowscooby

7/26/2022 05:46:56 am

One Minute Mysteries:
This was a great and nostalgic episode. The idea of The Flash helping the gang solve their mysteries in a fast way was a fun and funny idea. It was cool seeing Scooby Doo Where Are You Villains and the culprits with some of them being updated versions. Like the Miner49er he was after gold. Mine Your Own Business the miners motive was for oil. Hanks hair was different. Captain Cutler had a mustache. Pazzo The Ghost Clown/Aj Dobbs was a stand in for the Ghost Clown/Harry The Hypnotist. It was interesting to see that Simone was the Witch instead of Zeb.

The Creeper scene is the best redone version. It’s was funny seeing the Flash run slow. He failed trying to get in the hay with the rest of the gang haha. Him saying it’s impossible for the monster to appear out of nowhere. Him bringing the Creeper closer to him and the gang. Him going super fast during the door gag scene. The Creeper banging into the door just like he did with the rake. The Flash can’t take it anymore of doing things slow and helping them wrap up the Creeper mystery faster. The Creeper being trapped in hay again. Mr. Carswell looks the most different. No glasses and a full beard.

Man the classic key scene from Spooky Space Kook was redone in this episode. Scooby throwing the key out the window then coming in with the key so Shaggy can unlock the door for them to get out haha. Even the Flash was thinking about what they just did. They could’ve just jumped out the window.

The Giant Evil Teddy Bear was a silly choice of a villain. It was a cool idea of him kidnapping Fred, Daphne and Velma and had them trapped in 3 different places with teddy bears holding bombs and the Flash had the choice to save all three of them before the Giant Teddy Bear sets off the bombs or he can save all three of them with the price of revealing his secret identity to the world.

The Flash loosing his speed and Scooby and Shaggy giving him Scooby Scacks to get him powered up and fast again. It was funny that Shaggy and Scooby dressed up as the Flash to fool the EvilTeddy Bear. The Flash saving Fred, Daphne, Velma, Shaggy and Scooby from the exploding toy factory and the music playing during it was cool.

I liked the reference of Joker and Batman. It was nice that the culprit was a Flash Villain, The Trickster and I thought it was funny that he’s an actual fan of the Creeper costume.

The Flash was a great and funny guest star. The relationship between Shaggy, Scooby and Barry Allen was cute. They don’t even know that their best buddy is The Flash.

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7/26/2022 10:48:59 am

I really appreciated this episode for doing something so different from the rest of the series. It was a very silly episode that felt a little reminiscent of Be Cool. The villain being a giant teddy bear fit the silly tone of the episode perfectly. I know I've said before that them reusing the same villains gets a little old if they do it too much, but I thought the old Where Are You villains worked perfectly here. Agreed that the Creeper was the best redone villain!

The Flash, Shaggy and Scooby's relationship as really cute. The stakes of the second half of the episode were really high, and it definitely kept me on the edge of my seat the first time watching it. The first and the second halves of the episode were very different, but I loved both parts of the episode. The Flash helpjng the gang capture all of the old Where Are You villains was a lot of fun. I was also surprised that Simone was the witch. The reference to Joker and Batman was a lot of fun, and I also liked that the culprit was a Flash villain too. The Flash was one of the best guest stars of the show IMO and I really enjoyed this episode. One of my favorites of this series.

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